Ticket selling in the pros

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by AllabouttheJab, Mar 5, 2012.


  1. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    Dan means he's a big ticket seller, better ticket seller then fighter.
     
  2. AllabouttheJab

    AllabouttheJab New Member Full Member

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    :patsch Makes perfect sense, never have rated paul smith
     
  3. HairyHighlander

    HairyHighlander BASS !! HOWLOWCANUGO ?? Full Member

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    Ayes, this is why i always make a point of getting them through the gyms.......be it my area or not.
     
  4. troy

    troy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    take Micheal Grant good fighter trained his ass off ,was told to shift 100 tickets failed to sell that amount was pulled from the show on the day,also i know of many fighters taken percentage in tickets sells some are being paid £80 a fight.
     
  5. HairyHighlander

    HairyHighlander BASS !! HOWLOWCANUGO ?? Full Member

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    Woooooooooooosh that aint too nice eh.

    Reminds me of Australia.....was told by some promoter at a show the TBA's were on fifty Aussie dolls a round.

    Was around the mid 2000's.
     
  6. Gaz S

    Gaz S Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Disgraceful. Boxers are treated like **** so often at the lower levels of the game.


    Whilst it is in everyone who's part of a promotion's best interests to sell as many tickets as possible, there are some lazy promoters who literally do nothing but dump a load of tickets on boxers and expect them to sell. They forget about the "promotion" part of being a promoter, they basically just book the venue.

    It's also an extremely short sighted way to do business, inhibits growth, and is ultimately going to be the thing that hurts boxing the most. I mean, if you have, let's say, 10 boxers on your show, and just solely rely on them selling tickets to their mates - who's going to come and see the next show, and the one after that? The exact same bunches of mates of each boxer. There's no building up of a fighter, expanding their fan base beyond their own personal social group.

    The promoter who does next to **** all to promote the show, relying solely on the boxers' own personal ticket sales is not helping the sport, or the boxers at all. He is just looking to cash in as soon as possible from a small hall show (and the stupid thing is he/she is scouring for pennies in what could be a potential pot of gold).
    He needs to attract "walk ins", the casual sports/boxing fan to get those boxers on the show over with "new" people, people who may not have seen them before, but will invest enough interest to want to follow them further. That's how a fan base builds. Just relying purely on selling to mates is basically going to keep that boxer at the same "commercial value" level forever.
    The ticket selling burden for a boxer wouldn't be quite so bad if some promoters pulled their finger out too - and actually promoted.
     
  7. Gaz S

    Gaz S Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good man. :good

    Many people just don't realise how valuable the support is. Literally, without it the boxer often isn't given an opportunity to fight!
     
  8. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is why I think the boxing system/rankings should be better regulated. If there was an official ranking system with garented wages for bouts and results it would be much fairer. Mind you there is always the amateurs and if you do well enough you will get a big money pro deal.
     
  9. lozkina

    lozkina Well-Known Member Full Member

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    good reading these posts
     
  10. alba

    alba Guess who? Full Member

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    its ok to take pot shots at the promioters ,but some of the fans are no much better .there wasa thread on here about 2/3 weeks ago that was basically tearing into Ben Jones .

    He had done an interview with a local paper and was hyping the fight ,maybe over did a wee bit but basically was trying to generate ticket sales for the fight ,and soem of the comments were a bit ott and tearing lumps into him
     
  11. Longcount

    Longcount boxing Full Member

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    There is also a little bit of confusion here between the role of a promoter and that of a manager/agent.
     
  12. harry the haddo

    harry the haddo Active Member Full Member

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    isn't this another reason why prizefighter is a 'good thing'? lesser known fighters get a decent pay day in front of a sell out crowd plus national exposure. just had a look at the past winners - rogan, martin murray, the dickinson brothers, fielding. mendy and anwar - none of these were were well known names but have benfitted massively .i can't imagine all are big ticket sellers who would achieved without the prizefighter win
     
  13. wake up call

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    Excellent post.

    Too many promoters simply do not promote as you say. I mean how many times is there a show on and people do not know about it?

    In my view, and I know a large number of promoters, too few spend the time to build an event up.

    But managers do not always help their fighters either.

    A lot of managers seem to believe that their duties do not extend beyond getting their boxers a fight here and there.

    If I was managing a fighter or even promoting, here's the things I would look at before I even thought about putting on a show (in no order).

    1) How can I arrange my boxer some sponsorship?
    2) How can I build up his image locally? Which events should he go to?
    3) Who is the sports editor at his local newspaper and how can he help my boxer to get coverage?
    4) Who are the prominent boxing writers on the internet? How do I contact them? How can they help my boxer appeal to a wider audience?
    5) How much will it cost me to set my boxer up a website?
    6) How can I media train my fighter to come across in the best light?
    7) Can I get my boxer to interact with fans and build his profile up by using social media?
    8) Are there any local charitable causes which, while rewarding, will also provide good free PR?

    Most of them do none of these things.