Tim Bradley changes his mind on Haney vs Loma verdict after rewatching it

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  1. 40ozoe

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    I am an expert on boxing and great at scoring fights, I started watching boxing 6 months ago and I watched Haney vs Loma and scored the fight after finishing 5 of the 6 beers that I had in my sixpack the 6th one was in my right hand while I used my left one to smoke a joint and to play a game on my phone. I scored this fight a clear victory for one of those guys but I can't remember which one, maybe it was the asian dude.
     
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  2. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    When fights are this close it’s not unusual to have differing opinions. How did you have it my guy?
     
  4. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I would still say it was a close fight but if Haney put in Loma’s performance he would have lost.
     
  5. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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    corrected
     
  6. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    This. And I actually saw this coming too. A certain few other well known individuals in the sport will sudden change their picks too ;) Watch

    If someone takes the time to make a video slowing down each punch sequence to really show who landed what (MUCH of haney’s ‘bodywork’ hit Loma’s arms) then it will put to bed any dumb notion that haney won. I really hope someone does that!

    “Bu.. but daddy he already knows what I’m trynna do!!!!”

    :lol::lol::lol:
     
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  7. jquest

    jquest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If you scored the fight when you first watched it, live or not, that should be the only scoring verdict you have. Rewatching and scoring it and coming out with a different result has bias and seems like you can't trust what you first saw.

    In any case, Loma won, clearly. Look at Haney's size advantage and how he said he was going to use his size and push Loma around the ring. He was the one that was back peddling and fighting Loma's fight. It's quite simple.
     
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  8. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Yep, Timmy is a company man and someone from ESPS whispered in his ear after his initial comments. Look for similar comments from other guys who spoke the truth and called the fight for Loma on fight night. It’s a disgrace to see a guy who has given so much to boxing, conducted himself like a true pro and agreed to fight guys without the diva drama we see from so many fighters get totally screwed.

    If Haney beat Loma as convincing as Loma beat Haney, he would have scored a UD shutout. The house fighter was Haney and Loma would have needed a KO to get his arm raised. I am fed up with boxing.
     
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  9. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Those people will refuse to watch the video or at least completely as they wouldn't want to see what actually took place & then **** on it by saying the didn't include so & so in it & is biased for a multiple of reasons,

    I recall some guy making the Ward/Kovalev & Pac/May highlights showing how many punches really weren't landing even only grazing while showing the ones that were too fast but missed while the others being counted without connecting instead most were heard whining,

    End of the day people wont want to see it with their own eyes & change their mind, usually that's how it goes.
     
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  10. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Loma's whole team but in particular Egis need to move smarter & be a whole lot more stern with their approach going forward,

    Egi's over willingness to be all chummy with Haney & company was a bad sign from the beginning especially with Haney's Team throwing out jokes & accusations of ducking while Team Loma stood idly by without no rebuttal throughout all the pressers with a blank look on their faces leading into their fight,

    Felt like Egis was somewhat intimidated & just let them & Top Rank have a field day with them & i can only imagine how the negotiations were played out backstage as seen before the guys who are more focused on keeping the peace end up getting screwed more in the end.
     
  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Was the house fighter Devin Haney?

    All of Loma's fights his entire pro career, except for the Gary Russell bout which was on Showtime, were promoted or co-promoted by Top Rank, which runs Boxing on ESPN.

    Practically every ESPN profile you've ever seen of Loma as a pro was made by Top Rank folks.

    Since the demise of HBO, where Arum took him to get maximum exposure early on, all of Loma's fights have been on ESPN.

    Loma's quest to unify the lightweight division was a Top Rank production.

    Loma's comeback after his loss to Lopez was engineered and televised by Top Rank.

    The cameras showing Loma crying in his dressing room Saturday was a Top Rank production.

    Bob Arum sat in public at the press conference and said Loma won easily.

    I'm sure Bob Arum would've loved to stage a unification for all the lightweight belts between Loma and Davis, instead of having a guy win who is expected to bolt and leave all the belts vacant.

    How was Loma NOT the "house fighter?"

    When it was announced Arum was co-promoting the Haney-Kamobosos rematch, Arum said:

    “Vasiliy has arrived in the United States with his entire family. He’s set up training in the Los Angeles area. He will have his first fight back on October 29. I look forward to matching the winner of Haney and Kambosos with Lomachenko in the first quarter of next year.”

    All Arum was interested in was getting Loma all three belts. He didn't care if Haney won or Kambosos won their rematch. The objective was to get Loma the first opportunity to win three belts

    That's it. The "house fighter" was Loma. You can't be MORE of a House Fighter than Loma was Saturday. His entire pro career is a Top Rank production.

    Haney just got there.
     
  12. Jackman65

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    If Loma was the house fighter, he would have won by UD. House fighters don’t get screwed like Moretti screwed Loma in the 10th round. Haney is a Vegas native, a young american, versus an old guy close to retirement, and the ESPN announcers did everything by they could to cheerlead for him throughout the fight. He was gifted a questionable decision because he’s the HOUSE fighter. You can use pretzels logic all you wish, it doesn’t change reality.
     
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  13. Dubblechin

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    It's not pretzels logic. Loma's entire decade-long career has been with Top Rank. Arum promoted the Haney-Kambosos rematch so Loma could get the winner.

    One guy has been there a decade. One guy has been there since October, and he wouldn't have been there at all if Kambosos got the decision. Whoever won that rematch got Loma.

    Loma was the focus. And all the Top Rank guys said Loma won, including Arum.

    That's the reality.

    If Bradley has changed his mind, he's actually the only one going against Top Rank.
     
  14. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Loma wasn’t even a belt holder. His career is mostly behind him and he’s an EE, coming to the US to fight the younger American champ. No way he’s the house fighter and no way he gets a fair decision. This fight is proof but look at other similar situations. GGG Canelo 1, Ward Kov 1, etc. both guys won close fights and got screwed on the cards because they went up against the house fighter. Eastern Euro guys get screwed the most. When has one in recent years gotten an undeserved decision against a popular American or Mexican fighter? Loma won the fight to 80% of the people who watched and an even higher percentage who saw it in person. The company me. Like bradly will toe the line because they aren’t going to risk angering their corporate masters. House fighter Haney who almost no one thinks won the fight. The most I’ve seen is people giving him a close draw. Pathetic.
     
  15. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The same people who for years criticized Arum when he promoted the fighter's they didn't like usually due to tribalism which is still the high point for peoples bias & hate especially with how rampant it is in Boxing,

    But now that Arum's stable contains the Shakurs, Keyshawns, Haneys of the world he's suddenly a great & naive promoter, so fair & never could do wrong, i wonder why.