Tim Bradley is a more Versatile fighter than Chad Dawson who is One Dimensional.

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  1. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he don't need to take a risk against Tarver who didn't show up to fight, then his ass don't need to complain that nobody is payin him.

    Cuz nobody wants to see his ass fight.

    I mean, how can you tell me that the next big thing in boxing was to scared to try to put on a better performance than Old Man Hopkins put on several years ago.
     
  2. di tullio

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    dawson is too complacent.
     
  3. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    1. Because he did put on a similar preformance in there first fight.

    2. He wanted nothing to do with the rematch but had to give Tarver one because it was contracted.

    3. Press the fight for what reason? Risk getting KO'd by someone you already dominated and who has a great chin and is a great counter puncher??

    Watch him vs Pascal to judge him not in a rematch with Tarver where he just went through the motions.
     
  4. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always though rematches were for a guy to make a statement. He can go through the motions all he wants, but if wants to get paid in this industry, he's gonna have to put up or shut up.

    And you can make excuses for him all you want, but if an old man Hopkins can put in that kinda effort to prove who he is and how people should see him, then Dawson, knowing he was in the position to shine, should have done the same thing.

    He didn't, and he dropped the ball. That's why he's not fightin Hopkins.

    Cuz ask the average person about Chad Dawson, they say, Who?
     
  5. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    The rematch clause was in the contract. In the first fight Dawson won by 8-9 rounds. It wasnt close.
     
  6. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    He's not fighting Hopkins because Hopkins knows he'll lose. Hopkins would most likely make more money fighting Dawson then fighting Roy Jones. Which was about the poorest Pay Per View in history.
     
  7. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not even gonna start with you. You get attached to a mother ****ers dick.

    Ain't no logic in that ****.

    Bottom line, boxing is a business. And if he wants to make money, he's gotta start producin. If he wanted Hopkins, he shoulda made an impact, cuz your average mother ****er down the streen ain't give two shits about Dawson.

    That's why back in the day when B Hop was in H town, and Roy called him out, mother ****ers voted unanimously, by a signficant margin I may add, that they wanted to see B Hop fight Roy, knowin full well Roy was a has been.

    Thing is, if you want to talk technique, that's good, but I'm not gonna argue some opinions with a man who clearly obsesses over other men. I'm not built for that ****, and I don't got time for it.

    Either way, I get to step away from this ****. No reason for me to be here right now...

    If mother ****ers wanna read my thread and gain some insight, they can do so. Hey, that's why I wrote it. But if mother ****ers wanna talk nonsense, I ain't gonna be here to respond to that kinda bull****.

    I'm out.
     
  8. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Aint no logic that there was a rematch clause or the fact that Dawson won by a large margin? Explain.
    So you believe that the best fighters can be avoided simply because they are good? That the only thing that matters is money?


    Roy Jones Jr and Bernard Hopkins probably didnt do 200,000 buys. It was an atrocious fight. An insult to the boxing public.

    Hopkins has never been a draw, which shows just how hypocritical you are. YOu know how many boring decisions Hopkins has had against guys he should have starched?

    Hopkins can fight Dawson on BAD just like where he fought Calzaghe.
     
  9. Jai C

    Jai C Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Bradley is more versatile and exciting than Dawson. IMO he should be ranked higher than Dawson in the P4P ranking. The super lightweight division is loaded and the light heavyweight division is full of older fighters on their way out. With the exception of Pascal and Cloud. Either way, the level of competition is why I feel this way.
     
  10. Rock0052

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    There's no metric by which Dawson's underrated. P4P rated, HBO headlining fighters aren't underrated. I've seen him rated from 5-10 on every P4P lists I've been looking at, which is quite favorable considering there's fighters just as accomplished and in some cases, more, that can't buy a top 10 P4P spot.

    Underappreciated by fans? I could see that because his popularity doesn't match his ranking. This is partially due to fighting in a dead division, fighting too infrequently, and his complacency to just win without necessarily pulling out all the stops he's capable of which a good number of fans care about (perfect example, that's the main knock people here have on Wlad). Dawson's got real skills, I just think fans are frustrated because they're not on full display much. Bradley's the antithesis of that; he may have fewer tools in the toolbox due to not having the physical advantages Chad has, but he puts them on display for fans more, both in fighting more frequently and putting on a more exciting fight. And that's why he's building fans at a faster rate right now, although being in a deeper division definitely helps, too.

    The other thing with Dawson...HBO invested a fortune in him knowing he wasn't a huge draw at the time and got him his P4P ranking as a way to build his name up for a better return on their investment. We'll see the same thing happen with Bradley once he makes the switch over from Showtime.
     
  11. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    (Note: this is directed at the TS.)

    Jesus Christ, you're a god damn moron.

    A few points for you to consider:

    1) Neither Dawson/Tarver fight was a PPV. Dawson has never fought on PPV. The first fight was Showtime and the rematch was his first bout on HBO.

    2) For the guy who doesn't get paid at all, he has made well over a million dollars. That's a lot more than Bradley has made (and I think Bradley is an outstanding fighter as well), but there aren't many 20-something non-Olympians who tear it up financially in the modern era.

    3) With Pascal, Dawson will have had five consecutive fights against top-five opponents in his own division. How many other fighters can boast the same?
     
  12. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1) It wasn't HBO PPV? You might wanna go ahead and check this link. http://tomtacks.blogspot.com/2009/05/watch-dawson-vs-tarver-2-live-stream.html

    2) If he's so content with his money, why is he always bitchin about not gettin the big fights?

    3) You've done nothing to address the topic of this thread. You're just on here to dick ride another man. I'm not down with that ****. I don't like this type of **** on my thread.

    4) You the moron, *****.
     
  13. lefthook31

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    This. ^ Ridiculous statement
     
  14. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you think otherwise, school me.

    I think I've offered plenty of valid points that are gonna be hard for a guy who hasn't even read them to defend what they just stated.

    Just because you're one dimensional, doesn't mean you can't be great. There are several fighters throughout history that have been one dimensional and have been champions.

    A guy that comes foward isn't the only example of a one dimensional fighter. Spinks is a clear example of a guy who could never press a fight if his life depended upon on it.

    Dawson had two opportunities to make the world notice him when he fought a straight counterpuncher in Tarver, who didn't even show up to fight.

    Years earlier, Old Man Hopkins beat the **** out of Tarver, and had Tarver on his last leg in the last rounds. To be honest, I'm surprised Tarver finished the fight on his feet.

    And why did this happen? Because Hopkins is a multi dimensional fighter. He doesn't always box because he knows how to fight aggressively. He managed to be aggressive at times and box at times.

    Dawson, as the younger, faster, bigger man, had every opportunity to do this against an even older Tarver, in fact had 2 chances to shine, but he dropped the ball.

    So either he's one dimensional or scared to take risks. From what I saw, he appeared to be a one dimensional fighter. If he wasn't, he would have made a statement by beating the **** out of Tarver. You can't just ask for a hand out. You gotta go get that ****.

    And that's why Hopkins ain't fightin his ass. Cuz who the **** is Chad Dawson? You know him, I know him, but ain't nobody else knows his ass.

    And that's the way it's gonna be until he learns that he's gotta do more to win fans.
     
  15. lefthook31

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    Dawson is a young fighter who has really come a long way in his last five fights. Thats all you can ask for from a young guy thats learning, regardless if he has a title or not. Hes in better condition now, throws good combinations and has good handspeed. I think hes been brought along perfectly all the while knocking off two proven old wiley vets in Tarver and Johnson and winning the title over Adamek, which was impressive as well. Dawson is what we need in boxing and I dont think Bradley has proven himself on the same level as of yet.
    In his last fight your starting to see a lot of confidence in him and I think thats going to carry into future fights. He would do a number on Bernard right now. Hes too fast and too active and Hopkins would never be able to keep up.