Tim Bradley is a more Versatile fighter than Chad Dawson who is One Dimensional.

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  1. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    chad just has less opposition to choose from...
     
  2. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Dawson is not one dimensional. He doesnt fight like David Tua for example, he can do more than one thing. He can box, move, punch, and punch in combination and fight on the inside. Hes definitely a good solid boxer puncher thats fufilling his potential. I thought he schooled both Tarver and Johnson in his last two fights. Hes coming along nicely, but not the finished product yet.
     
  3. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bradley understand the business aspect of the sport. Bradley who like other posters said, doesn't have the gifts that Dawson has, yet puts his heart out there in every fight. He always goes for the kill, and is always in exciting fights.

    You can't say the same for Dawson who dropped the ball.

    If he didn't, we wouldn't be talkin about why Dawson hasn't fought Hopkins or who would win because the fight would have already taken place.

    Dawson had the opportunity to shine TWICE. He's the next best thing in boxing, yet he couldn't even get close to outdoing Old Man Hopkins performance and Dawson had an even older Tarver sitting in front of him.

    Dawson gets what he deserves. If he wanted Hopkins, he should went out and got Hopkins. The ball is in his court.

    I don't see Bradley lettin an opportunity like that slip out of his hands. That man comes bring it every second of the fight.

    Even if you look back in history, Ezzard Charles, the greatest LHW of all times, was knocking people out and down all the time. And he wasn't knockin out chumps. I'm talkin about guys like Archie Moore.

    Mother ****er had undeniably ridiculous skill, but he was a performer too.

    Like I said, there is a reason why Chess ain't on TV.
     
  4. lefthook31

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    I dont know what the politics were behind the Hopkins fight, but I can guarantee you Hopkins is smart enough to understand that Dawson is just too young and good for him at this point. Tarver has never been stopped in his entire career. I think your being a little over critical of Dawson. Hes a young guy thats just now coming into his prime. Hes changed trainers a few time and EMM has really got him looking good and confident, so skies the limit for him. I think theres a lot of talent at super middle that he can get into the mix with and make some good fights down the line.
    Man I dont know what else you can ask for, a guy that throws a **** load of punches and is all action, thats a fans favorite fighter. I thought shined very well in his last two fights.
     
  5. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    The fact that you dont even know that Tarver vs Dawson was on regular HBO shows how little you know. You are a moron and all you are trying to do is bash Dawson.

    Dawson BEAT THE **** outta Tarver in there first fight THAT WAS THE STATEMENT just because you didnt watch the fight isnt our problem so STFU. And if Hopkins HAD TO give Tarver a rematch I doubt he wouldve looked as good as he did in the first fight.

    And rematching someone you have already dominated is not a way to "make a statement" the first fight was the statement the second fight is just a waste of your time. Alot of fighters who have rematched fighters they dominated in the past havent looked as good in the second fight then they have in the first. Look at Malingaggi vs N'Dou or Lewis vs Holyfield. And you wanna talk about Hopkins.... look at his three fights with Robert Allen. The first fight Allen was winning and getting the better of Hopkins. The second fight Hopkins destroyed him and stopped him in the 7th. The third fight he just went through the motions and won a boring lackluster UD.

    You're an idiot.:good
     
  6. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Hopkins ain't fighting Dawson cause he knows he'll lose. The last time Hopkins fought a prime fighter that is faster then him, he lost.

    Man if Dawson is 1 dimensional then Ricky Hatton is a complete fighter correct?
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    LMAO at calling Dawson one-dimensional. That's a first. You make Bradley sound like a world beater but fail to mention he was dropped twice by Holt in the process and was looking to just hang on. You say Dawson didn't look good against Tarver but who does? With that said Dawson dominated Tarver in the first fight. Dawson is a much better defensive fighter than Bradley and a better combo puncher and body puncher to. Imo Dawson is the more versatile fighter and has improved greatly from his first fight with Johnson. Dawson will end up being the better boxer when it's all over.
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I couldn't agree more. The guy doesn't have many weaknesses.
     
  9. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Dawson vs Tarver rematch was on REGULAR HBO YOU DUMMY.
     
  10. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tarver vs Dawson 2 was HBO PPV.
     
  11. BigReg

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    No it wasn't. Did you even see that fight?
     
  12. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    No it wasn't stupid
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    :patsch I watched the fight for free on HBO if it was PPV I would have never seen it.
     
  14. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Man i'm curious how was that fight on ppv if i watch it on hbo channel? :lol: I guess hbo change the name to hbo ppv? lol.
     
  15. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If it ain't mother ****in Pimp C.

    You're right that Dawson is a more athletic fighter. I never said he wasn't.

    But he showed his true colors against Tarver who is a counterpuncher when he had two chances to put on a dominant peformance, yet dropped the ball.

    It's apparent that you don't understand the defenition multi dimensional in the context in which I used it. It means that a fighter can press the fight or let the fight come to him.

    Let me give you an example cuz I know you love dick ridin mother ****ers, so I gotta drill **** in a little harder than in mother ****ers that have a clear mind. Holt is a rangy powerful counterpuncher with quick hands and fast feet.

    Bradley knew this, and took the fight to him, beating the **** out of Holt's body, and delivering an exciting fight. Not only would he have possibly lost the fight from the outside, but it would have been a less fan pleasing affair.

    Bradley showed amazing technique in versatility in the way he pressured the fight against Tarver. In my opinion, it was text book. Much better than Ricky Hatton, and more reminicent of fighters from a different era.

    Against Peterson, I was sure that Bradley would use the same tactic, and while he did at the beggining of the fight, he later began to box Peterson, a guy who is more athletic, rangier, and taller than Bradley. Bradley again did an amazing, text book job.

    Now, there is nothing to criticize about Dawson's ability to box and counterpunch. He is amazing. But when he tries to press the fight, he looks completely out of his element. He puts his hands up, walks in straight lines, does not move his head. He looks Abraham basically. He is a guy that either doesn't have the knowledge of how to fight aggressively, is too scared to take risks, or doesn't feel that he has to.

    Now usually he doesn't have to, in fact against anybody in the LHW division, he doesn't have to do so to WIN. BUT, performances in boxing matter. People don't watch chess on TV because it's just not exciting.

    Old Man Hopkins is a guy that was aware of this. And he delivered a spectacular performance. Like Bradley did against Peterson, Hopkins did against Tarver. He was aggressive at times, and boxed at times, and did both flawlessly. As a result, he gave Tarver a beating that he's never received in his life, and almost knocked him out in the late rounds with the crowd on its feet. Hopkins didn't just go to the LHW division, he ARRIVED and made a statement.

    Now you got Dawson, a younger, stronger, bigger guy than Hopkins who's out there running his mouth about how he should get this and that, and nobody respects him, and then he goes out and drops the ball twice against Tarver. There is no reason on earth that he couldn't at least duplicate OLD MAN Hopkins' performance and make a statement showing the WORLD that Bad Chad has arrived, and he WILL be respected.

    You gotta put up or shut up in this business. And Dawson had two opportunites against Tarver, yet he dropped the ball.

    So if he's not one dimensional, what is he? Scared?

    Cuz I don't know. I mean, I saw two guys in the ring playin, "put your hands up, you punch, I punch" in the ring, and the younger guy winning on activity alone. ****, Tarver is an old man, that is expected.

    If that's a dominating performance to you, then you must have great times going to place like the library. I mean, that must be a fun day for you. Cuz even my girl was like, "Why we watchin this?" And I had to be like, "I don't know baby, it's the same **** over and over and over again."

    Mother ****ers have a tendecy to flip the channel.

    So dick ride the mother ****er all you want. I'm just speakin the truth. I don't dick ride mother ****ers.