Tim Bradley "win" over JMM was extreme unimpressive

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  1. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    That's not what I think but whatever makes you feel superior lol
     
  2. fruitpunch

    fruitpunch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:

    First you ride Mayweathers nuts non stop and now this

    You're starting to lose credibility :lol:
     
  3. thesmokingm

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    Ethics is feeling superior? Ok.



    What is speculative about being caught doping by VADA? It's a fact he was caught. You can speculate on his reason, because you're actually the one trying to make the picture vague. There is no doubt or speculation that he tested positive.

    Cheaters don't deserve to be condemned for their actions? You even implied that you are pretty sure he knew what he was taking. Do you even know what you're saying???? :shock:
     
  4. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    1. You said "So you don't think there was anything wrong with Rios. Got it. It was an accident he was caught and banned from the Chinese sanctioning body? Ok, good for you."

    I NEVER said there was nothing wrong with Rios. I NEVER said it was an accident he was caught or took any substance. Tell yourself whatever you want though.

    2. I'm not making any picture vague. There is absolutely no doubt he tested positive, but there is doubt as to WHY he was using it. You ASSUME he was flushing PEDs. I'm simply saying that we don't know and probably never will. Therefore if you think he was flushing PEDs that is pure speculation and opinion, NOT fact.

    I NEVER said he was clean or dirty. I NEVER said he was using to cut weight or flush PEDs. I simply said he CAN. Know the difference.

    3. Cheaters should absolutely be punished.

    4. When I said I'm pretty sure he knew what he was taking I was referring to the diuretic. Nice try twisting it though.
     
  5. thesmokingm

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    Lmao. You cannot see the forest from the trees.


    It doesn't matter what he was thinking or what you think he was thinking. He was caught using a drug on the banned list.

    You can rationalize that with oh but we can't assume why he was using X drug for whatever reason, all you want. It doesn't change the fact that HE WAS DOPING.

    He was caught doping, that means he was ****ing dirty, what the hell is wrong with you?

    You're arguing to give him a pass from where I'm sitting. We obviously don't have the same moral code.
     
  6. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    It has nothing to do with morals but you're trying to twist it into that. He was caught using a diuretic; since it is illegal then it doesn't matter WHY. But you're talking like he was taking some performance enhancing drug. He took something that was designed to help you cut weight.

    I never said he was or was not dirty so you might as well drop that ****. Stop looking for arguments that aren't there. And how the hell am I trying to give him a pass? I'm arguing for you to call it what it is, not imply he's on PEDs.

    Seriously, I don't see how I can make it more clear for you.

    Was he dirty? Yes.
    Did he take an illegal substance? Yes.
    Was he on PEDs? We can't say for sure.

    It's that simple.
     
  7. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You really are a wonder.

    Why are diuretics banned?

    Why are masking agents banned?


    Let's say neither are performance enhancing drugs. Why are those types of drugs banned?


    lol for that matter let me add why are diuretics and masking agents lumped together by WADA. You ever read the ****ing WADA code?

    http://list.wada-ama.org/list/s5-diuretics-and-other-masking-agents/


    http://www.teachpe.com/drugs/diuretics.php

     
  8. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    1. Because they can be used to cheat tests. A diuretic CAN be used to cheat tests but doesn't mean it always is.
    2. We're not talking about masking agents.

    If you think Rios was taking PEDs, stop implying it and just say it. All I'm saying is we can't know for sure lol that's it. You're acting like you know for sure.
     
  9. thesmokingm

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    Why is a 140lber taking a diuretic to make 147lbs?


    Btw, who gets to make the distinction that a diuretic isn't used to cheat testing?

    Do you? That's seems to be what you're saying.

    I don't care what his reason is, it's the same to me. Dopers never get caught with everything they take, especially when a masking agent or diuretic is involved. It's like Martha Stewart, they wanted her on taxes, but instead got her on perjury.

    You cannot be that thick to want to give him the benefit of the doubt can you?
     
  10. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    So you think he's on PEDs because he's a former 140 fighter taking a diuretic to make 147. Just say it and stop skating around it.
     
  11. thesmokingm

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    It's highly ****ing suspicious.
     
  12. alexthegreatmc

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    Highly suspicious isn't guilty. I see where you're coming from and don't blame you, but you can't call him guilty for sure.
     
  13. thesmokingm

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    This is so disingenuous coming from f0mos who rallied behind the Mayweather's accusations on Pacquaio.


    Btw, Rios has connections to both Ariza and Heredia. Ariza and Heredia are connected. All these connections and you want to to play this "fair" game lol.

    Exposed.
     
  14. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    You need to stop assuming what I'm saying. You're stressing yourself out.
     
  15. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I had a suspicion that this is what it's really about.