Tim Witherspoon vs Deontay Wilder

Top ten with whom?

Sorry you have a problem with me, for my part you're just an insignificant buffoon with an attitude problem.

 

Is this where you wax lyrical about Bermaine Stiverne, Luis Ortiz, Dominic Breazeale and Chris Arreola?

Tony Tubbs, Frank Bruno, Carl Williams and Bonecrusher Smith are much better. And everyone here would take them hands down over.

 

I haven't said anything that wasn't true.

How many of the top 10 fighters today do you think would lose a title fight tuneup to a journeyman (brought in to lay down) who ended with 39 losses on his ledger?

Because that's what Witherspoon did. Martin went 13 years, lost 34 times during that period, and only managed three wins. And one of those wins was against Witherspoon ... when Martin was brought in to fall down to hype the Moorer-Witherspoon WBO Title fight.

Can you imagine any contender today, prepping for a title fight, losing to a guy who had 34 losses and 2 wins over 13 years?

Tim did. To hell with his crab defense and his overhand right.

People in the 80s knew revolving door of 80s heavyweights weren't good. I'm not saying anything that hasn't been printed a thousand times before. They even gave them all a collective name - "The Lost Generation" - because collectively they weren't GOOD.

This era is better. Wilder destroys Witherspoon.

 

Fury went after Wilder, no way could Spoon have done that, he didn`t have the tools.

 

Changed my mind. Witherspoon was way too inconsistent to be favored over Wilder. Even the best version had vulernabilities.

 

Ortiz is far better than any of those guys, Bruno was really limited and chinny.

 

Maybe, one thing is for sure spoon would not have been able to take Wilder`s best shots at all.

 

No he wasn't. Bruno would beat ten bells of **** outta Ortiz.

 

'Really limited and chinny' sums Wilder up brilliantly.

 

Tim was a higher caliber of fighter than almost all of Wilder's opponents bar Ortiz and Fury... I see Tim eventually tearing down Wilder unless he gets caught early

 

Not in the first fight he didn’t and still Wilder’s power fell short of its usual game-changing impact.

It feels like you're trying to make a big statement, here^. But it’s not really saying anything.

What tools do you need to beat Wilder?

 

I think Tim stops Wilder within 3.

 

Ortiz' winning resume has who on it?

 

wilder is Not chinny. He has one stoppage loss in 44 fights and in that loss the corner threw in the towel. Fury was landing at will and couldn't drop him. When he did go down earlier in the fight it was from a body shot. Wilder was also severely off balance from shots behind the ear.

Fury conspicuously didn't put a dent in him the first fight over 12 dispite the narrative that he was supposedly winning nearly every round and landing at will.

Ortiz and stiverne couldn't drop him in 4 combined attempts.

Arreola, Brezeale, could bang and he couldn't make Wilder flinch.

There is no evidence Wilder is chinny. If you think his chin was that bad then he obviously has better defense than people give him credit for.

 

Fury has little power for a guy his size. This is quite well known.

Not my narrative. I honestly don't even have a big issue with the draw. Fury may have made wilder miss a lot of shots, but he was extremely inactive and passive for a lot of that fight.

Oh give over. The rematches were just Wilder picking on the elderly. And don't make out like Stiverne was a massive puncher. Ortiz had him on ***** street in the first fight. Had he had better stamina, he'd have stopped him.

Wilder has been hurt multiple times. And now he's had the **** beaten outta him by someone who has never shown a lick of power at power at world level.

Molina, Ortiz, Breazeale, Scoiners, Fury II &c.

As it happens I do. He's capable of backing off and keeping fighters are arms length. He has good reflexes and obviously has that power which works as a ward of sorts to stop people from being hyper aggressive.

But ultimately, it's that his opposition is completely **** poor.