Tim Witherspoon vs Deontay Wilder

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Carl Williams was ranked when he beat him. His chin stood up to the artillery of Frank Bruno, James Smith, Ray Mercer and a myriad of others. Guess he never beat anyone as great as Carlos Molina or Chris Areola though. Oh well
     
  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ah yes, another disappointing 12-round split decision for Tim against a weak-chinned contender. My mistake.

    You've convinced me of the error of my ways. (LOL)

    Wilder early.
     
  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    then go with it
     
  4. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Witherspoon knocks his head into the 3rd row with that overhand right
     
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  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Witherspoon couldn't knock the heads of Tony Willis, Mike Williams or Carl Williams into the third row, and they weren't exactly known for their chins. (LOL)

    Witherspoon wasn't any better than Snipes or The Truth or any of them. And any time an actual BIG FIGHT was there for him - like fighting Tyson in 1987 or Moorer in 1992 -- Witherspoon would blow it by losing in embarrassing fashion to guys like Bigfoot Martin.

    Wilder made 10 times as many successful title defenses as Witherspoon did in TWO reigns and Wilder was the champ for half of the last decade.

    Wilder wipes out Spoon, if Tim doesnt' quit in the corner like he did against Brian Nielsen so he could go back to his hotel room and get stoned.

    Is Witherspoon the new "it" guy in classic? This thread is comical.

    Wilder has height, reach, power, conditioning, heart, chin, EVERYTHING over Tim Witherspoon.
     
  6. NoNeck

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    Hey man, those were OFF NIGHTS.
     
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  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly. Every time they set him up with a knockover opponent to look good, Tim would go the distance. Before the Tony Willis fight, the announcers were even saying, sorry, this one is going to be quick. An hour later, they were struggling to find the words. (LOL)

    Or maybe Tony Willis was the greatest light heavyweight ever ... and we've all been sleeping on him for years? That's probably it.

    Same thing with James Pritchard. Small guy. Stopped in the quickest cruiserweight title fight in history - stopped in 30 seconds. The announcers were saying "don't go to the refrigerator, this one could be over quick." Ten boring rounds later, another decision.

    And the only thing stopping a Moorer-Spoon WBO title fight was a Spoon win over former light heavy and former cruiserweight Bigfoot Martin, who had as many losses as wins, who even Tony Willis managed to beat, and Spoon freaking fails to show up again and this time loses the decision.

    But I'm sure he'd do fine against Wilder. (LOL)

    Gotta go.
     
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  8. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Everything ??? Tim puts him into the hospital,Wilder just can’t fight.
     
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  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Funniest post of the day.

    Tim Witherspoon couldn't outbox Bigfoot Martin or Jimmy Thunder. And neither went to the hospital, either.

    Hell, he barely got past Larry Alexander. Won another split decision. Ever see Larry Alexander fight? Larry Alexander didn't go to the hospital, either.

    If all of the majority and split decisions Tim won were given to the other guy, Tim would have 21 losses. He either looked totally uninterested or barely squeaked by many nights, even against the most journeymen of journeymen.

    You guys know who Tim Witherspoon is, right? (LOL) I'm beginning to wonder.
     
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  10. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the thing with Wilder is he has ATG power but nothing else.He can’t throw a proper left jab or left hook. He does not have the fundamentals.He does not handle pressure well and does have the best chin.His defense is not good,He is a Top 5 ATG puncher with the right hand.But that is not enough to beat a ready Timmy in my mind.
     
  11. Man_Machine

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    One-Trick Wilder always has a chance with that right-hand, but sheer reliance on one punch is a handicap; a problem, which only grows as the opposition gets better.

    Wilder hasn't beaten anyone on a par with Witherspoon and we all saw what happened to Wilder when someone was fearless enough to go at him, in sustained fashion and land their own shots. He crumpled like brittle papier-mâché.

    Even old man Ortiz was mugging Wilder, until he lost his sense of direction and set himself up perfectly for Wilder's lone asset.

    At this point in time, the wiser money goes on Witherspoon. Wilder may yet transform into some kind of new and improved heavyweight. However, that's an outcome I'm less likely to put my money on, right now.
     
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  12. Dubblechin

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    Wilder's fundamentals are fine. Wilder won the National Golden Gloves, the U.S. Amateur Championships, the U.S. Olympic Trials, the Olympic Bronze Medal, and the WBC Heavyweight title (after breaking his right hand when he floored Stiverne) all by boxing. All of his major awards were won by boxing.

    He didn't win any of them with a knockout.

    And Fury is considered the best heavyweight in the world and the division's best boxer, and Wilder came within one point on one card of winning the decision in their first fight. One judge gave Wilder the fight on points. Another scored it a draw.

    So people who say Wilder doesn't have fundamentals or Wilder can't box are kidding themselves. He was one point away from outpointing the best heavyweight boxer in the world.

    Wilder has crazy power and sometimes relies on it too much. But he can box just fine. If he couldn't box ... he wouldn't have won the National Golden Gloves, the U.S. Amateur Championships, the Olympic Trials, the Bronze Medal or the WBC heavyweight title ... because he failed to knock anyone out accomplishing those major victories. Right?

    Watch him outbox Stiverne. Watch him waste Breazeale with the fastest jab you'll ever see followed immediately by a right hand. (The jab is so fast you don't even notice it, but it blinds Breazeale). Watch Wilder floor Fury in the 12th of their first fight with a blinding jab, right hand, left hook combination that takes all of a second.

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    You guys have convinced yourself Wilder can't box. But it's simply not true.

    In this thread, some of you have also convinced yourselves a quitter who was half the puncher Wilder was who couldn't knock out light heavys and cruisers was something special and was going to blast Wilder's head into the third row (LOL). He (Spoon) wasn't special at all. He had a ridiculous amount of majority and split decisions go his way. Nobodies beat him or lost controversial decisions against him.

    I get that Wilder is wildly unpopular on this board. But this is comical. Wilder has everything over Tim Witherspoon.
     
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  13. rinsj

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    Witherspoon would do another Anders Eklund (KO1) to Wilder.
     
  14. Dubblechin

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    Second funniest post of the day.

    Wilder won national amateur titles, an Olympic medal, held the WBC title for five years. Made 10 successful defenses, including flooring Fury twice and successfully defending against him. And has lost once.

    Witherspoon won no amateur titles. Lost 13 times officially as a pro while squeaking out eight split or majority decisions over nobodies like Larry Alexander, Mike Williams and Jose Ribalta; lost to the likes of Bigfoot Martin, Larry Donald and Jimmy Thunder, managed to hold the WBA belt for 10 whole months one time before getting knocked out in one by a late sub who he'd already outpointed ... and has admitted he quit in fights so he could go back to his room and do drugs ...

    Was handed one knockover opponent after another (like Tony Willis and James Pritchard and Mike Sedillo) by his promoter to try to make him look good ... only to bore the pants off everyone.

    But the smart money is on Spoon? (LOL) Got it.

    Only on this board ...
     
  15. McGrain

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    In the end, there's nothing strange about this pick, it's certainly not other-worldly as you're making out.

    Witherspoon was very inconsistent but at his best people think him excellent. Head-to-head, these people are all thinking of the best versions of these fighters they have seen. The idea that Witherspoon is better at his absolute best than Wilder is at his absolute best is in no way strange or bizarre. Making Witherspoon a favourite is very reasonable, there's nothing wrong with the notion at all.