Tim Witherspoon vs Deontay Wilder

Yeah, I think you guys need to watch more Tim Witherspoon fights. (LOL) That KO was sandwiched between Tim's split decision over Larry Alexander and his majority decision over Jose Ribalta.

I guess boring split decisions aren't as memorable as one-round knockouts.

 

He had 69 fights. When was he excellent. That will clear a lot up.

 

Which Tim are they picking over Wilder? The Tim who won a majority decision against Renaldo Snipes. The Tim who won a split decision over Carl Williams. The Tim who won a split decision over Mike Williams. The Tim who won a split decision over Larry Alexander. The Tim who won a majority decision over Jose Ribalta. The Tim who won a majority decision over Greg Page for a title. The Tim who won a majority decision over Tony Tubbs for a title ... which one?

Because those Tims weren't particularly good, either. And nobody at the time thought he looked particularly good, either.

 

Honestly, I think it's that Tim never got his chance to be demolished by Tyson.

 

And who the #### had Wilder fought?
NOBODY

 

What is your issue with the fact that he won some of his fights by decision? Tyson fury decisioned an ancient wladimir Klitschko then took years off from the ring and ultimately cremated the crap out of wilder. Fury was also floored earlier in his career by a 37 year old cruiser. And by the way maybe you Should actually watch fights rather than rely on boxrec for results because spoon legitimately won all those “ split” and “ majority” decisions... hell wilder was gifted a draw against fury.

 

I couldn't possibly be in second place, given you've posted about dozen times on this thread already.

But, in your case, the posts you've written have not exactly been humorous - more funny-weird.

I'm not too concerned with his exploits as an amateur (which, in any event, aren't comparatively stellar, as am records go). Indeed, I'm not particularly interested in his legacy at all, save how he performed against his best opposition - which isn't all that well.

Yes - funny how a better class of opponent not only took Deontay's one trick, quite literally on the chin, but had mugged Wilder in every round, otherwise. Fury even finished the stronger in the 12th.

The rematch was a bad loss for Wilder. Fury just went about beating him up like a bully, who'd been found out and had more than met their match.

I can't recall a Heavyweight Titlist caving so badly.

Character and legacy assassinations don't really count, when it comes to matching best vs best in speculative fantasy match-ups. Your points here^ have no relevance in this debate

At his best, Witherspoon would have arguably been Wilder's best opponent.

Actually - this one^ is funny-haha. Like Wilder was matched with top-tier talent during his early going; like he's since been matched and conquered the Titans of today's heavyweight boxing scene...

Alas, no.

Ah - so it's ok for most of Wilder's professional career to have been manufactured, because he has a big right hand and could make beating cans look better?

If you want to reduce the risk of losing said money, yes. Wilder has so little boxing ability that him being out-boxed by someone, who can actually box, is not unheard of.

Witherspoon could box.

Obviously not.

Yes - only on this board does fandom drive a poster to either completely forget or ignore that the object of their affection (Wilder) hasn't beaten a single world class heavyweight in their prime.

 

You've just listed a plethora of names better than any wilder win.

 

You can't? (LOL)

Did you see this rematch? Was this 90-second demolition a bad loss? Fury was rated #1 by Ring when he beat Wilder in February. Where was late sub Bonecrusher Smith rated?

The fact that you actually typed that convinces me you know nothing about Tim Witherspoon OR Wilder.

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Was the Bigfoot Martin loss a bad loss? Where was Bigfoot rated? Was Brian Nielsen a bad loss? Where was he rated? Was Larry Donald a bad loss? Was Andrew Golota a bad loss? Was Jimmy Thunder a bad loss?

Wilder fought Fury to a draw. Witherspoon fought Mike Sedillo to a draw?

Wilder is getting huge crap for losing ONE fIght to the #1 heavyweight on the planet.

Can you imagine if Wilder lost to Bigfoot Martin? Jesus Christ.

Martin won one fight and had 14 losses in a five-year span. And the one win was against Witherspoon!

Wilder lost to Fury.

Can you imagine if Wilder went 10 rounds with Tony Willis or James Pritchard or if Wilder eaked out a split decisions against scrubs like Larry Alexander who were all brought in specifically for him to knock out and look good against?

Can you imagine if Wilder got knocked out by Lou Savarese or Brian Nielsen?

Wilder lost to the #1 rated world champ ... and he's getting dumped on.

This thread is a joke.

Wilder has lost once to the #1 heavyweight in the world, who he also floored twice and drew with.

Witherspoon lost to an assortment of nobodies. Barely decisioned nobodies. Went the distance with nobody light heavys and cruisers brought in specifically for him to KO and he couldn't. Lost to low-level journeymen. Lost out on big fights because he couldn't beat his tuneups.

Wilder beats Tim in every category physically and mentally and in terms of career accomplishments.

No contest.

 

I've watched every fight I've talked about, nearly all as they happened.

I get the feeling most of the people commenting on this thread have not.

 

I know right ? He’s laughing at spoon for beating literally multiple guys who were better than Wilder’s best win.

 

Apparently so.

 

Of course McCall was a skilled boxer. Let us be accurate & exact.
McCall was not very skilled considering pure boxing skills among world class boxers.
But he was a world class fighter.
He has good power, & may well have had the Greatest Chin of All Time.

Let us not confuse certain things.
Adding up how high one ranks in certain skills among the best in the world does not reflect how good one is in any sport.
Ted Williams "only" was great at hitting, mediocre in fielding & baserunning.
A dominant Basketball center may lack world class skills in ball handling & have no 3 point shot...
But if one is good enough in skills that when measuring both how highly they rate their, AND how important said skill is to success in the sport-such as hitting home runs & knock outs...

They can be much better than almost anyone in the world, & better or vastly superior to those who are more well rounded on paper.