So do you think Witherspoon could get someone to poison Wlad the way Brewster did. Wlad KO Brewster 6, Wlad KO Witherspoon 10.
Yeah - a 43 year old, shopworn Mercer would not have beaten Witherspoon on his best day. Peak Mercer might have - but in any event, nice try! Re-start thread/.
Fresh off his big KO over Bruno, Witherspoon gets his chin tested by Smith and spirals out of the top 10 to never be seen again... [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rN8jL3ylPU[/ame] Comeback Wlad fights through left hooks and illegal blows from a fit Peter to rebound from career threatening losses and earn his second Championship. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZjwauY0bew[/ame] I think this is all that needs to be said...some fighters are winners, some are losers. Witherspoon was derailed by the limited Pinklon Thomas and Bonecrusher during his prime top 10 years. Get the **** out of here....
Witherspoon's overhand right is no better than Kirk Johnson's, slower and just as telegraphed. Now his right to the body was a great weapon for him, and I could see him troubling Wlad with if he doesn't get sparked by left hooks trying to land it. Vitali guards his body well with his low left and can slip bombing rights like that pretty easily, straight crosses like the ones Lewis nailed him with are his weakness.....but really you don't give a **** about analysis so I'll quit. The fat black beats the weak chin white. Witherspoon KO both in 1! :nut
NO! Not really........ "The Spoon" was very good in 1983 thru 1986, but not good enough to beat the Klit's when both brothers are on top of their game...... No way, Jose...... Spoon gets beaten down and stopped late.... The K-Bros. are in a different ballpark......:hi: MR.BILL:bbb
He did have some power, but he was very hittable and kinda slow. He didn't try to close the distance with you he preferred to fight at a distance and that would favor the Klits. He would of been tailor made for them. It would be Wlad vs. Derrick Jefferson all over again.
Good point... But Spoon did get close to mug Tubbs in '86 down in Georgia....... MR.BILL:hat Spoon also mugged a lazy Page in 1984.........
LOL, Witherspoon couldn't carry either of the bro's jock strap. Next u'll be saying, could Lewis hang with the Quarry....
What? Holmes of course has a chance vs. anyone BUT David Bey beats David Haye? Coatzee beats Adamek? Page beats Vitali Klitschko? Are on crack???
:roll: I was just underlining a point that I have maintained throughout the debate, i.e. the Heavyweights of today are not of the same level as back in the 80s (or the 90s). Taking a Top-5, from a specific point in time of the past, and comparing it to the current Top-5, as The Mongoose has done, is an obvious ploy at being selective, in order make out that the standard of the Heavyweight division today is no different from any other point in the 80s. This is a fallacious method of reasoning known as 'biased sample'. It was a throw away line from me. Hence the EDIT and the wink. However, since were on the subject, the fact that two Boxers have moved up from Cruiserweight into the current Top-5 Heavyweights, with such ease, is an indication of todays standard. The fact that these two naturally smaller guys seem to be the only hopes considered as any type of challenge to the Klitschkos is another one. Now lets just think about that. Between them, Cruiserweights Haye and Adamek have had less than 10 Heavyweight bouts but they are in the Top-5 and currently the only hopes against Vitali or Wlad. :think
Most of your responses have overlooked the point of the question, asked by the TS, because you constantly refer to Witherspoons lack of consistency. I have already acknowledged this and, still, you continue to bring up the worst of Witherspoon, rather than the best. Yes, Witherspoon was inconsistent and, in your own words, an underachiever I know. I agree. The only reasoning you have come up with to directly answer the question and support your position is that, a) Kirk Johnson (a victim of Vitali) outshines Witherspoon, citing his win over Oleg Maskaev as better than Witherspoons performance against Larry Holmes and b) Vitalis win over Sam Peter is the highlight of Vitalis career. Im sorry that this is the best you can come up with to answer the original question. I do hope that some truly world class Heavyweights appear on the scene for the Klitschkos to cement their legacy, before they are both forced to retire through age. However, it is unlikely and so their joint domination of the division will probably be tainted due to the state of the division. This will always be taken into consideration when reviewing them both, in terms of Heavyweight history. It was a reasonable debate. Many Thanks to the TS for putting up a provocative post, which begged for a Devils Advocate. It was a good way for me to test the waters regarding peoples ideas on the current Heavyweight scene, in comparison to those of the 1980s. Nice one. :thumbsup