Tim Witherspoon vs. the following 90s fighters:

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  1. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would be able to reply to this if it was the Tim of the Holmes fight, which to me was by far the best he ever was.
     
  2. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    C'mon, Spoon of the Mercer bout was probably one of Spoon's best nights ever.
     
  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    In his prime I would only make Tyson, Lewis and Holyfield clear favorites over him. But As he was in the 90’s, the list of men who would beat him gets a bit longer
     
  4. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    I think prime Spoon has a good chance at beating both Holyfield and Lewis.
     
  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    In an upset perhaps but I doubt many would make him a favorite in those fights
     
  6. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's hard for me to be too impressed by Witherspoon against Mercer. Not just because Mercer had his buttocks handed to him by Holmes...nah, that's mostly the reason lol. Mercer was a good fighter, but...

    Holmes-era Witherspoon:

    Michael Grant- Ko in 5
    Michael Moorer- ko in 10
    Mike Tyson- ko by 6 (see George Foreman for elucidation)
    1992 George Foreman- Ko by 8. I realize Smith caught Tim on a bad day with that 1st round ko, but if Smith ko'd him...
    Evander Holyfield- L UD
    Bert Cooper-KO 7
    David Tua- Ko by 10
    Razor Ruddock- W ko 9
    Lennox Lewis- pre-Steward Tim wins SD; Steward-era Ko by 8
    Frank Bruno II- Ko in 8
    Hasim Rahman- Ko in 7
    Shannon Briggs- ko in 9
    Bruce Seldon- Ko in 3
    Tommy Morrison- Ko in 5
    Oliver McCall- Wins SD where both land some nice bombs
    Riddick Bowe- Tim doesn't last 6 rounds
     
  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    The revisionist glorification of Spoon is right on time.

    As someone who actually lived thru that era, and who actually really liked Timmy, he would consistently break your heart. He would lose to a lot of these guys.
     
  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I hate people who step in and sabotage the entire premise of a thread, but, when it comes to Witherspoon, I am that guy, because he was so inconsistent, that it is just impossible to say.

    I would think that on his best day, he beats any outside of prime Tyson or Holyfield (then again, Tyson's prime was done by the 90s). But his best days were few and far between and, it it really depends on what percentage of Terrible Tim shows up.

    By the way, they offered Big George a fight, and he declined, so, as much as I like Foreman, it shows you how much they respected the man's abilities despite his need for a nutritionist and a twelve-step sponsor.
     
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  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Maybe, also he beat Bruno in `86 so there`s no reason he couldn`t have beaten him for the same reason in the 90`s, also Spoon looked flabby against Bruno, a slimmer spoon would have been sharper.
     
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  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    McCall had very bad fundamentals.
     
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  11. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's nothing wrong with bringing that up. I realize that Spoon was inconsistent, I mean he lost to Golota and Donald, but stopped Gonzalez and warred with Mercer. I still think Spoon was more skilled than nearly all of these guys and had the tools to beat almost any of them, except Tyson and Holyfield like you say. I don't see him losing to Tyson. Even thought Tyson wasn't prime in the 90s either, he was better off than Spoon surely. I just think that if Spoon comes to war for 10 rounds like he does with Mercer, most of the 90s fighters cannot do that with Spoon.
     
  12. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As an aside, I'm surprised he got his title shot against Larry Holmes. In August 1982 he was scheduled to fight Quick Tillis on national TV, but he pulled out at the last minute, apparently over a dispute with Don King. He was inactive for nearly a year going into the Holmes fight.

    At his best, Witherspoon gives anyone trouble and beats all but the very best. At his worst he loses to guys like Bonecrusher Smith and Everette Martin and takes way too much time off.
     
  13. VVMM

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    Smith was far better than Everett Martin considering an aging shot Smith destroyed him.(Honorable mention the old Foreman
    couldn't knock out Martin but Smith did.)
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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  15. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Best version of Witherspoon vs best version of:

    Michael Grant - KO1
    Michael Moorer - KO10
    Mike Tyson - LUD12
    1992 George Foreman - WMD12
    Evander Holyfield - LUD12
    Bert Cooper - TKO 7
    David Tua - WUD12
    Razor Ruddock - KO2
    Lennox Lewis - LUD12
    Hasim Rahman - TKO7
    Shannon Briggs - KO5
    Bruce Seldon - KO1
    Tommy Morrison- KO 5
    Oliver McCall - WUD
    Riddick Bowe - LTKO9