Tim Witherspoon vs Vitali Klitsckho

V.K. once used roids, but since the last decade or so, his physique has told a different story...... Today, V.K. appears naturally trained......... He is solid, but not overly ripped to the maxi-pad........ V.K. is a doctor......... He's the goods......

MR.BILL

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I'm on the side getting tweaked--AGAIN to Telly Savalas in some low-budget cop thriller called: "Border Cop." WTF?

 

You ignored my point, which was that VITLAY is a PROVEN steroid cheat, whereas Bruno is not.

I couldn't care less how VITLAY 'appears' these days, that means nothing.

Also if VITLAY is a 'Doctor' then how the hell did he get conned into taking steroids in the first place? You have to admit from that alone that he knew what he was doing, and therefore knew he was cheating?

Time to quit this line of defence I think my friend.

 

Witherspoon's overhand right really isn't that much better than Kirk Johnson's loopy bomb in terms of technique. Vitali should be able to slip it.



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Lennox Lewis' straight precise right is a completely different animal:

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Hey Fighting,

Does this mean Vitali wrote himself a Dr's note to excuse him from the Byrd fight in round 10?

 

Straight? Precise? That was the fattest worst version of lennox lewis who ever entered the ring. Lewis was vulnerable that night..and vitali still could not capitalize on the situation.

Witherspoon clocked holmes a number of times with good right hands.

 

For Christ sakes, Bruno is / was also a roider................ Passing a test or not, that sum ***** goes from a solid 222 pounds in his youth up to 247 pounds in his 30s without gaining any fat content, and you expect me to believe he is the new and improved Mr. Clean????????? **** ME RAW!

Bruno was also using / abusing roids during the later part of his career.............. C'mon.....

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"Dear Referee,

Please excuse poor VITLAY from fighting the last few rounds, as he has a bad yeast infection - not to mention his arm smarts a bit.

Love, his mummy, WALDO"

 

Interesting you should point that out, Bruno was 220 lbs when he was 22 years old, he gradually increased in weight until his final fight against Tyson when he was 34 and maxed out at 247-248 lbs.

Now lets look at the Klits....WALDO was 222 when he was 21 years old, and has suddenly become this big monster when he's 34 years old at 244 lbs, and he's never had an ounce of fat on him. Surely he must be a roider too then, right?

As for VITLAY, he started his pro career at 232, at age 25 or thereabouts...he's moved up to 250 over the years despite never looking fat, surely there's a question mark there? You could say the same **** about every HW that ever lived, they all gain weight with age but only a few of them ever get to be proven steroid cheats, and VITLAY falls into that category so stop spinning bull**** and accept the fact that your man is a cheat.

 

I see your incapble of being rationale on the matter.

Lewis could throw a better right cross NOW than prime Witherspoon could even dream of. This is a question of style, execution, and technique. Vitali got cut by a long straight cross that he couldn't pull away from, looping rights seem to zoom right past him when he leans back.


Well here's PRIME Witherspoon still looping the right like a windmill 4:05 of this video. His best work with the right hand was deflecting jabs out of the crab and digging hooks to Holmes' body. When he went upstairs he got loopy and had trouble landing. With Vitali's low left hand protecting his ribs, I don't see him doing much with it in this match up, maybe getting under a jab occassionally but certainly no Lennox Lewis' eye slicing crosses.


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Truth be told, I too liked "The Spoon" back in the 80s and 90s, but he did indeed LOOP his right much like Norton did.................. Timmy Spoon rarely ever truly crossed with it with sharpness......... To a degree, Spoon wrote his opponents a letter prior to launching a right hand....... BUT! That sum ***** did land with a thud upon making its mark...... Cheerio...

MR.BILL

I popped a huge woody when Spoon at age 38 KO'd the **** outta Jorge L. Gonzalez at MSG in 1996 on HBO..........

 

Yeah, I could be smart like you and make your quoted words real big and bold, but I will stick to the fact-based method. If you can handle that, of course. Where do I begin?

Ok....Wladimir has a much better jab than Frank Bruno, is taller and knows how to use his height beautifully, a better right hand, and yes, it is true, no one would ever accuse either Wladimir or Frank of having a great chin. I was not at all saying that Frank would lose to Wladimir because Frank had a great, jab, good power and no chin. I was just simply listing the few decent credentials that Bruno had and his biggest downfall. Yeah, no chin and pretty bad stamina. Yep, I am talking about the legendary former PAPER world champion, Frank Bruno. Bruno would get beaten down by Wladimir because Wladimir is on another level, PERIOD. Hey, by the way, I just made the word "period" in caps. Aren't I cool like Fighting Weight?

Yes. I said that injuries beat Vitali. Clearly, Byrd did not injure Vitali's shoulder. Byrd was fighting the wrong man, but on the right night. I would have liked to see a rematch, but it didn't happen. That doesn't mean that Vitali isn't the much better fighter. He was well ahead. And yes, Lewis did put the cut on Vitali's face, but Klitschko didn't stop the fight. The doctor/referree did. Vitali was also winning that one. Of course I give the great Lennox Lewis more credit in that regard than Byrd, but still, Vitali was kicking his ass. Lewis was getting some hard shots in too, so don't get in twisted again. Vitali was ahead, no doubt about it.

 

There are different types of bad chins, boxing expert. Some get sparked cold, i.e., an old Roy Jones. Some get nailed and can't throw another punch and basically stand there and take shot after shot to the face, i.e., Frank Bruno in both Tyson fights, the Lewis fight, etc.
Typical ignorance is you even comparing a granite chin like Chuvalo's to that glazed china of Bruno's.

 

Simply put, W.K. is a MUCH better fighter than Franklin Bruno ever dreamed of becoming........ TRUTH!

MR.BILL

 

Frank Bruno TKO 6 Vitali

Tim Witherspoon RTD 9 Vitali

 

Never happen, dude..........:-(

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