Time to accept Lomachenko is too big for Rigondeaux

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  1. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    122 is a fake weightclass.

    Rigo has the power to hurt guys at 126 and clearly has the skills to beat them.

    If he wants to get paid, he should go up to 126. Gonzales, Mares, etc...all the players are up there.

    Rigo could contend if not beat all of them.
     
  2. rhin0z>

    rhin0z> Boxing Addict Full Member

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    These guys are not coming in the ring at 126 they are blowing up to 140 before the fight. No way rigo should fight walters or loma unless the come in on fight night at a swelt 125. Thats fair.
     
  3. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    And when Loma fought Russell jr, it looked like he was in the ring with a midget.
     
  4. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rigo can do whatever he wants with his career, but you all are underestimating him.

    He has the ability to beat the guys at 126, including Walters.

    His defense is remarkable, and he can hurt these guys. He's proven it.

    The question is, why wouldn't Rigo go for the money?

    Sometimes, you have to take risks to get paid.

    Look at Sergio Martinez. Dude was CONSISTANTLY the smaller man, yet it didn't stop him from issuing ass whippin after ass whippin, despite being constantly outsized and being a southpaw for that matter.

    Look at Pacquaio. Dude had to move up in weight because that's where the money is. Unlike Mayweather, he doesn't have a reach advantage, plus he's a undersized southpaw which is a huge obstacle within itself, especially as you go up in weight against orthodox fighters.

    Most of the time, southpaw is only an advantage if you are bigger than your opponent, then you can fight like a bltch, like Lara does.

    If Lara moves up in weight to 160, he has the skills to contend, but he couldn't fight every single fight like a scared ass bltch.
     
  5. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    We know Loma would want it but would Rigo? We'll soon find out.
     
  6. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    122 is already Rigondeaux's Martinez weight class.

    He's smaller than everyone already, 126 is same as Sergio at 168.
     
  7. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rigo has a reach advantage over pretty much everyone he faces.

    When you're a southpaw, your reach advantage is even more emphasized because it allows you to keep a comfortable distance from your opponent.

    On top of that, Rigo has POWER.

    So I disagree. Martinez didn't always have the reach advantage, and when he moved up in weight for the money, he had to make up for it with skills, heart, and determination.

    Rigo COULD do the same thing. He clearly has the skills and the POWER to do it, but he doesn't want to get hit.

    That's the bottom line.

    I get it. He doesn't want to risk getting hit and apparently the money is not worth it.

    But guys that do it are the true warriors and the true ATGs.

    Look at Lara. He could easily go up and fight GGG or Quillin (although Quillin would probably duck him), but he would actually have to fight more.

    He could play the role of the scared bltch, stinking out fights because guys at that weight may have the same reach, so it nullifies his style and makes it so he has to actually make adjustments and try and fight.

    Like Rigo, Lara stays at a fake ass weightclass.

    Rigo can either be extra scared and go down to 118 and get no money or he can grab his ***** like Sergio Martinez and go for the fame and the money at 126.

    It's up to him. It's his life.

    Honestly, I don't care what he does. The world will still rotate no matter what he decides to do.

    However, guys like Martinez will be remembered as being greater than him because they took the risks. They were the gladiators of this era.

    You can't say the same for Rigo.
     
  8. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just because he has long arms and power, doesn't mean he should move up. He's small, his body frame is small, how is that so hard to understand?

    A good big fighter beats a good little one, moving up would be a bad idea. Your 'Martinez' comparison, is really bad too. There was no one good at 160.
     
  9. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I think Rigo could beat Loma. COULD.
     
  10. rhin0z>

    rhin0z> Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rigo problem is fighters in his weight class are scared shizitless. I mean you havent heard a peep from any of these guys.

    Carl Frampton Leo Santa Cruz Scott Quigg Kiko Martinez Chris Avalos
     
  11. The Akbar One

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    What great middleweights did Martinez fight? He would never have moved up if 160 wasn't so weak. His best win is against a 147/154 pounder.
     
  12. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who at 126 is more proven than Pavlik?

    LOL.

    I'll wait.
     
  13. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you can't be serious..

    Pavlik who got exposed vs a 45 year old man a year earlier?

    The talent at 126 is on a different level to him.
     
  14. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Loma's FIRST fight was a 12 rounder with a champion. Who do Rigo fight for his first fight? A tomato can.

    2. Orlando fought dirty the whole fight and could of been DQ.

    3. Finally, Orlando was almost KO in the last round.

    PUT Rigo with Orlando in his first fight and he would of been KO'ED.

    BTW...Lamo has the better amateur record.
     
  15. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    It will be a career defining fight for either one. A purist's dreamfight or boxing fan's version of a jedi vs sith going at it. I think Rigo will win. He won't be an easy target for Loma, he wont fight Loma's fight or match him punch for punch. I think he'll counter the **** outta Loma and he has the pop to keep him humble. Loma will make him work hard for it tho. Rigo will also cut him in half and slow Loma's roll with bodyshots. Rigo one of those type of fighters can do so much effectiveness with little effort. Loma just doesn't have the style to beat Rigo. **** the ams they only take you so far. This is the pros.