Timofei Konstantinovich Tszyu vs. Keith Fitzgerald Thurman, Jr.

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The Soul Taker or 1-Time?

Poll closed Mar 30, 2024.
  1. Tszyu on points

    16.3%
  2. Tszyu by stoppage

    71.4%
  3. Draw

    2.0%
  4. Thurman on points

    2.0%
  5. Thurman by stoppage

    8.2%
  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    True story, that's his name.
     
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  2. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And explains why he was so pissed at Tony Harrison who kept calling him Timothy despite being warned by Tszyu.
     
  3. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    I initially thought Tszyu would KO Thurman comfortably. On second thought, I don't think it's going to be the walk in the park many people think it's going to be for Tszyu.

    The lay off that Thurman's had might actually be a benefit to him as he's been in the game since being a child, he's no Johnny come lately, his body could probably do with a rest. Bare in mind he's only got one loss which some consider to be a controversial one, he was considered to be a proper world class high caliber boxer at 147. The last boxer Thurman beat, Barrios, made easy work over Pacquiao's conqueror, Ugas, so that should give you an idea of the type of talent Thurman is.

    I'm expecting a very competitive fight with Tszyu to come out on top via UD or late stoppage.
     
  4. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tim's not defending a 160 title at 155...
     
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Timmy by either tko or ko. Fight shouldn't go past 9 rounds.
     
  6. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    I still feel like this fight was made just to keep Crawford away from Tim.
     
  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's dragging a Welterweight who hasn't fought in 2 years to 155-lbs to avoid defending his 154-lb title.
     
  8. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who's he supposed to defend his WBO against? And no one is touting this as a great fight, something you do w/ canelo. General consensus is, this is a pointless fight.
     
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  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A ranked 154-lb contender?
    Some people see this as a good fight, I mean Thurman's a bigger name than anyone Tim could defend his title against at 154. I don't see it as pointless, nor do I criticize Tim for taking it. But if we're going to apply the same standards to Tim, the same way people did with Canelo, then we can certainly do that.
     
  10. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Obviously he could defend against a JrMW. But whos available? There's this thing caled context you seem to know nothing about.

    NO ONE is sayng this is a good fight. Whatm mabe one or two people out of everyone?

    And Tim is NOT close to Canelo's level in terms of not only drawing power, but ability to pick and choose ANYONE he wants to fight. It's apples and oranges. And somehow you don't get it. Never did.
     
  11. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Undisputed Full Member

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    Elvis has left the building. Las Vegas needs a new King. Enter King Timmy, first of his name.

    Boxing history is littered with guys who were past it pulling it together for a final hoorah. Keef gives off that vibe but King Timmy won't be taking him lightly. He'll step on him hard & apply the blowtorch for the full 12 if needed.
     
  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    155 is 155. Canelo had not fought above that weight. The reason why he was fighting there was because Mayweather was holdinfg the 154 division hostage. There were no 154-lb titles available for Canelo to challenge for after he fought Mayweather. That's why he was fighting at 155. And Cotto was already defending the MW title at catchweights. Mayweather refused to rematch him, so the same arguments you are making now for Tim (who was available?) you could apply to Canelo back then. Canelo fought who was available at a weight that could be agreed upon.

    The difference is Tim is the 154-lb champ and is dragging up a WW to a non-title fight at 155. If this were Canelo, people would be accusing him of weight bullying, refusing to defend his title at 154, instead picking on a small inactive welterweight and dragging him up to 155 rather than defending his title in his weight class.
     
  13. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Give me a spell mate. This has been done to death. You are making out as though Tszyu is ducking top guys at 154. He isn't. Lubin walked away from negotiations, Bud was waiting on Spence, Ortiz is nowhere near ready so what does that leave us with? Fundora? Ramos? Madrimov? They'd all be fodder. Tszyu has already made light work of Mendoza and he's better than any of the aforementioned.

    And of course there is running man Charlo, who sleeps with the lights on. Tszyu has tried to make that fight for years. What more can he do?

    So, instead of throwaway lines, tell us who Tszyu is supposed to fight? He isn't hiding, he isn't inactive. He is literally available to anybody who wants to take their shot. Perhaps the question you need to be asking is who is going to have the stones to step up?
     
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  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not critizing him for taking this fight, all I'm saying is, if Tim were Canelo, everyone woiuld be criticizing him for dragging up an inactive WW to 155-lbs rather then defending his title. I'm being consistent, I didn't take any issue with Canelo fighting at 155 when he did, because he pretty much had to, given the title situation at 154, given Cotto defending the MW title at catchweights, etc. But people were criticizing him for all that, and when I explained why he was fighitng there, similar to what you're doing now to explain why Tim is fighting Thurman, I was called a fanboy. All I'm saying is, double standards. If Tim were Canelo, Tim would be getting ridiculed for this. I'm not doing that, just pointing out the double standards.
     
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  15. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    There is no way to predict this fight, unless you have an inshight on thurman's camp. It's been too long since thurman became inactive. He's basically a retired fighter.
     
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