Tips for a beginner boxer?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by MURDR, Oct 17, 2011.


  1. MURDR

    MURDR Active Member Full Member

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    So, long read, sorry...

    Basically, I'm 18 years old, a freshman in college, and after football season, I want to begin boxing lessons at a nearby boxing gym. I've been roaming through different videos and forums, etc., and I jsut signed up here for some new advice as well. Coming in, I know it will be tough, because the last 2 years, I've had major surgery on both knees, so my right knee is holding me back right now (still recovering), and obviously, from being on crutches, I'm out of shape. I'm not too worried about my conditioning, as that will come with training, but I basically just want to know what to expect when I get there.

    I'm currently 5'11.5", with around a 72" reach, and I'm about 240 pounds, and losing weight (for football, to switch positions). I believe I have a stronger starting base than most new members, as I've been lifting since high school, but I don't want to come in cocky thinking I can beat a trained fighter, as I know I can't.

    I'm a Southpaw, and I believe my straight and uppercut will definitely be my best punches.

    My goal is to compete in amateur boxing, I don't want to do it for fun (although it will be), I want to do it as a sport.

    I want to be have the best defense possible, as I believe, in any sport, that is the key to winning, and a defense-first philosophy is always the best strategy. I've seen some videos of the basic boxing stance, but even though I know it's for advanced boxers, thee Philly Shell looks to be very efficient if done right. I know I'll probably get flamed for that last statement, but I want to absorb as much damage as I can (I'm not soft, as I actually played through my torn ACL, so I can take pain, but it's boxing, you need to play it safe).

    So yeah, just really want to know what to expect the first few weeks or so, and I want to know your thoughts and what the benefits of the Philly Shell are, and why or why not I should attempt to learn it at an early stage.
     
  2. tofu2009

    tofu2009 Active Member Full Member

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    The Philly shell for some reason is not often seen in southpaws and it is preety rare to see it in the amatuer's, although I am talking to you from the UK. Your coach will want you to learn the basic stance and defence first. Your making a common error by mixing professional styles with the amatuer's. They look like different sports on occasions.
     
  3. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why?

    Why you're even mentioning the Philly shell when you've never boxed before I don't know.

    You need to forget everything you think you know and learn from the ground up, you'll realise just how little you know the first time you get punched.

    Listen and learn. You won't learn anything worthwhile on this forum before you actually start boxing.

    BTW, playing with an ACL injury is plain dumb, not tough.
     
  4. MURDR

    MURDR Active Member Full Member

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    Answers in bold. Also, thanks for the fast replies, guys. Other boxing forums take like a week for one response, literally.
     
  5. bam-bam

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    Genuinely unsure if this is trolling or not...
     
  6. MURDR

    MURDR Active Member Full Member

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    Nope, not trolling.
     
  7. CHAL_DIESEL

    CHAL_DIESEL GOAT Full Member

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    My tips would be first to lose weight, get into the gym and train extremely hard. I went into my gym at 5'11 245 only fighting experience I had was on the street or in bars. I trained dropped down and fought at 201 lbs as an amateur. So far I am 2-0 2ko's. My advice would be dont be scared of the punches that come, lose as much weight as you can because the lower the weight the softer the punches come in, road work is very important, and try out crossfit its awesome and one of the only workouts that mimic a fight in my opinion.
     
  8. MURDR

    MURDR Active Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the advice. But what exactly is roadwork? Never heard that term before. Also, I'm open to trying any program, but do boxing coaches look down on powerlifting? I know endurance and stuff is important, but I mean, will the majority on boxing coaches let me do bench, squat, dealift, clean, and press with HEAVY weights?
     
  9. bam-bam

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    Lose the weightlifting. Especially heavy weights, in time go back to light weights for lots of reps but for now concentrate on running, circuits, and boxing. Oh and running. Start eating a lot cleaner too of your diet is rubbish. But seriously once you realise that your hanging out of your arse lugging around a heavy frame when boxing you'll WANT to cut down. By roadwork we mean running too. Look at the stickys in the amateur section for a basic beginners boxing guide, and diet advice.
     
  10. Muhammad Ali

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    jump rope will be your new best friend
     
  11. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cut down on the weightlifting? Yes. Cut it out completely? No. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Light weights for lots of reps? Lol. What do you expect that to do?

    Lift weights 2-3 times a week if you want. Dynamic days and alternating upper/lower max effort days are best for boxers.
     
  12. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It builds endurance. Two or three minutes working same move with light weights is way to go in gym. Ideally weight should be so light that you can do it whole two/three minute round without brake
     
  13. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Weightlifting for a boxer is about increasing power throughout the body, same with near enough every athlete. You do not lift weights for endurance, that's what your cardio and sport specific training is for. Lifting a light weight for 3 minutes straight is going to do jack ****, that'd be like 20% of your 1RM. Useless.
     
  14. Muhammad Ali

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    my coach always says to use our body to strengthen our body
     
  15. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    3 minute rounds. We do that for 1 and half hour. Different task with different weights (majority of tasks are boxing related). Also there are tasks that train explosive power.

    I can assure you its working.