Tips for a beginner boxer?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by MURDR, Oct 17, 2011.


  1. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,144
    367
    Mar 5, 2006
    I supose it dosent hurt to add some heavy weight lifting, but that time is away for boxing trainings

    As im already big and strong I rather use time to learn boxing
     
  2. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,561
    179
    Aug 28, 2007
    Examples of what you do? You can't actually train explosiveness with light weights...

    If you do lift weights for an hour and a half in 3 minute rounds you must be lifting extremely light weights, reminds me of that awful gym class, Body Pump. Yes you're knackered at the end, but in no way is that the training of an athlete.

    The amount of times we've been through this crap on this forum.... :-(
     
  3. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,144
    367
    Mar 5, 2006
    Actually I would say its medium weights in that.
    Don’t know enough English to describe specific work outs.

    Its not only lifting weights. Its more like gym training. We have box jumping, different moves with weights, shadow boxings in warmup, push ups and different kind of things. Anyway it dosent include max/heavy weight lifting.

    Nothing like when I lifted weights in gym, before I started competing in boxing.


    Im pretty sure you dont know what kind of exercises I mean
     
  4. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,561
    179
    Aug 28, 2007
    Because you were body building...?

    The lifts I'm talking about - cleans, power cleans, push press, high weighted box jumps etc. Using heavy weight but keeping every lift explosive. Also max effort days with variations of squats and deadlifts.

    You think these lifts will decrease performance?
     
  5. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,144
    367
    Mar 5, 2006
    Not really. I was trying to up my maximum lifts in different moves.

    I dont do majority of those anymore. I dont think they help you very much in boxing.

    I only do squats, box jumps and push press of those. I dont do max effort days.

    I dont think they would decrease my performance, but I rather use my training time to something more usefull
     
  6. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,561
    179
    Aug 28, 2007
    Because being more powerful to a boxer would be entirely useless. :roll:

    None of the lifts I listed help with boxing, neither does running or doing push-ups and sit-ups, they increase your ability as an athlete which can have carry-over to boxing.
     
  7. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,144
    367
    Mar 5, 2006
    It wouldnt.
    My work out keeps my strenght level in good condition.

    Yeah but you can use weights to train more boxing specific exercises.

    Anyway its hard to argue this when my "weight lifting english" is not good enough to explain what I mean
     
  8. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,561
    179
    Aug 28, 2007
    You think having more power would not make you a better athlete/boxer? :patsch
    Mike Tyson seemed to be very powerful, but he was crap wasn't he?

    And?
     
  9. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,144
    367
    Mar 5, 2006
    Having more power is a good thing. (You do know that young Mike didnt have much weight training in his regime?)


    Using couple of days per week in max lifting exercises and day or two more in other gym exercises decreases the amount you have to train boxing.

    I have six trainings in week, plus running’s and daily grunts,push ups ect. Two of those are gym work outs.

    If I put couple of max lifting days in there it will leave my boxing trainings in very few.

    I haven’t notice significant losing in strength doing what I’m doing, but I do know that my pench press/deadlift/squat max numbers don’t get higher with this training. I have trained for getting better max in those for several years before I started competive boxing.

    If I would want to increase my max results, I would have to do at least two high weight trainings in the mix per week. I don’t think it would benefit me as much as boxing training would in boxing.

    Endurance training is also very important, so I wouldn’t want to take time away from that.
     
  10. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,561
    179
    Aug 28, 2007
    Tyson was naturally powerful, nobody can deny that. I didn't say he was powerful because of weight training.

    So does going out and doing long runs and sprints. I'm guessing you have no problem with that though.

    So an hour (or less) workout a night or 2 a week is going to completely ruin your entire routine? No.

    And...?

    Again, lifting weights does not increase boxing skill.

    You do know increasing your max strength increases endurance don't you?
     
  11. MURDR

    MURDR Active Member Full Member

    712
    0
    Oct 16, 2011
    Alright, can you guys stop? LOL, completely derailed the thread. I'm new to boxing, but I'm not new to lifting. If you don't use heavy weight and do explosive exercises, you probably don't have very much power.
     
  12. Muhammad Ali

    Muhammad Ali Member Full Member

    442
    0
    Oct 14, 2011
    :good
     
  13. MURDR

    MURDR Active Member Full Member

    712
    0
    Oct 16, 2011
    I'll take that as a bump for more good advice.
     
  14. bam-bam

    bam-bam Member Full Member

    174
    0
    Apr 17, 2011
    Oh yeah just read that back and it sounds like that, I meant cut down as in body weight. But yeah cut the weights out for now all together in my opinion.

    Light weights and more reps I thought was for strength but you won't grow in size with it. Our coach has us do them in circuits sometimes, but Ive not been boxing long so I only know what I've been told and what I can read on the Internet.
     
  15. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

    9,120
    4
    Jun 22, 2009
    I wasn't more than a beginner myself but I sparred a few times and learned a lot in that time. I tried a few things out in sparring but the Philly shell didn't work for me at all. I just sort of plodded to the centre of the ring like Abraham thinking I'll use less energy but the other guy just tee'd off on me until I gave that up very shortly after :lol:

    I found the best defence was just sticking a jab in the opponent's face repeatedly. Actually the most success I got was by fighting just like Wlad. Most of what I threw were jabs and it really wore the other guy down. By the third I could tee off with straight rights and left hooks because he was completely worn out. I suppose what I'm saying is work on your jab. We are slightly different cases though. I was a tall cruiserweight, you're a short heavyweight :think