Tired of X times world champion in X divisions!

Am I the only one who's tired of this bull****? In the old days, fighters fought each other, they moved divisions to face new fighters, new challenges. They fought the best of their weight class, and then move on to another to challenge the top of other divisions.

Today? Take a boxer like Floyd Gayweather. He's never really cleaned up a division, he's moved up in weight to get easy titles, ducking the serious competition, only to try to ***gotly mimic the great fighters of the past without really doing all the work. It's all just like a bad publicity stunt, not really putting in the work while pretending you've worked like no man ever did in the past...

Again, take Gayweather. His first title was genuine, did a couple defenses, most of them against people the majority of boxing fans never heard of... He then fought Castillo, who many thought won, and soon after it was pretty much over with that, it would be all coasting from there, the challenges had been met it seemed, and it would be cherry picking from then on.

So he went on to fight Arturo Gatti, "C+ level fighter" I think Floyd himself said, who had had more wars than an old hooker had dicks, and although he had heart, just didn't have it to compete at the top level... Then it was Zab Judah coming off a loss to C.Baldomir, (and C.Spinks) for a vacant title, and still Zab gave him a lesson for the first half of the fight and his first unofficial knockdown... Then Baldomir, who is hardly a reference or legend... Then it was an old De La Hoya, an old overweight Marquez, "Propaganda fights to make him look good", an old Mosley... It's pretty damn pathetic.

There's tons of fighters he could have fought. Hell, tons of fighters he should have fought... Just at WW, a few names that could have been on his resume: Winky, Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Pac, Williams, Martinez, etc... Others he could have earlier, Hatton @ 140, Casamayor, Freitas, Tszyu, Johnston, Spadafora, Forrest, etc.

It's the same BS as undefeated. Unless you really fight the serious people in the different weight classes, and not just go for the easy pickings, it means absolutely nothing. Especially when the list of "People ducked" is twice as long as the "people fought", and half of the names of the "people fought" list were smaller, out of their prime, coming off losses, etc.

It's ****ing gay is what it is. Step the **** up, or shut the hell up... Going for easy titles instead of fighting the fights is one of the things which is wrong for boxing. Too ****ing bad that boxing doesn't have a rating system worth **** which would actually force fighters to fight the fighters they should be fighting...

Now what, I saw a thread about Gay fighting Spadafora? Like RJJ vs Hopkins, about 10 years too late... Who the hell wants to see that fight? Who wanted to see the fat old Marquez fight? I love boxing, but at the same time, I hate it, because of ***gotry like that... Fights happen so rarely, and they they do, it's all too often a turd of a matchup...

 

I see it as insignificant really. At least they fight, midway... In the case of Manny I realize it might be to gain an edge on an opponent, well, make it more to his advantage (well not really since he's so much smaller anyhow...), but I don't see anything really bad about catchweights.

It's an option, like Gayweather's olympic style drug testing, no one has to do it. But if both agree to a catchweight, then I don't see a problem...

As for the title, the weight class basically says that fighters can't weigh over X pounds. If both fighters weight less, it doesn't make the title any less significant.

If a heavyweight champion agreed to fight a guy for the heavyweight title, and he came in at 190lbs, should he then lose the title because somehow he's not heavy enough? Catchweight is just that, two boxers agreeing to weigh a little less...

 

I take it you're being sarcastic. The differences here are the fights. RJJ jumping up weight class to win a HW title was something. He would fight someone who's much bigger than him, punched harder than anyone he ever faced, he had to gain a significant amount of weight. It was something. I thought it was fantastic at the time...

Pac is similar. His jumps in weights were quite significant, and he's fighting guys which are much bigger than him, and not nobodies... Margo, Cotto, all good fights... All fighters Gayweather ducked (lol) and were very highly regarded at one point...

But RJJ didn't pretend like he was the greatest HW boxer of all times. He didn't even pretend like he was a genuine heavyweight, he wasn't... Unlike Gay, who when he moved up in weight, quite belonged in the weight class, it's not like Gay was in mismatches because he face so much bigger opponents... Not like Pac vs Marg, vs Clottey, RJJ vs Ruiz, etc... Plus, it's WHO you fight.

I'll give you that, since you seem to be a Chicken Floyd fan, Gay's Mosley fight was interesting. Until we all found out that Mosley was really old and winded out after 3 rounds... But before that, it was an exciting fight. Retroactively though, Mosley was just too old which made the fight quite tedious... (Unlike RJJ vs Ruiz, Pac vs Marg, Cotto, etc..)

See, there's the difference. Although Hopkins defended his title in his weight class, it wasn't because it was such a crowded weightclass and had so much talent there... IMHO, he stagnated there, he could, should, have moved up in weight to face better and greater challenges...

That's the difference. Challenges. Calzaghe hid in UK until the very end of his career... But be it that you stagnate in a weight class, move up to cherry pick opponents and titles, it's the same issue. Lack of challenge. Lack of serious opposition. Same exact problem...

 

**** that would be ****ing Spartan...

"**** yo ****ing titles, bring on any mother****er I'll beat the **** out of them for kicks, **** you and your ***** ass n**** belts! I aint here for ****ing jewelry or fashion, I'm the meanest and baddest mother****er on the ****ing planet, you don't agree, come and fight me and I'll prove it in the ring. Name one ****ing n**** and I'll beat his ass. I'll fight anybody, any time. I ain't scared of nobody."

When you think about it, you realize how ****ing gay Mayweather really is... Or any other cherry picker out there... (Sorry if I seem to harp on Floyd Sinclair, aka, Gayweather, but he's the poster boy for cherry picking...)

 

Eat my feces dick wad :good Then tell me how many times I mentioned Pac in the post you quoted... I'll answer for you, once, amongst more than a dozen other fighters that Sinclair should have fought... Damn ******ed *****... :-(

Ironic isn't it that anything said vs Mayweather results in a ******* insult? ******ed *****'s can't even defend floyd pretty gay Sinclair, they have to instead try to denigrate another fighter (Pac) to try to make Sinclair look like a remotely heterosexual individual... Sad... Guess that's what happens when a man has made another his *****... ***** floyd should step up! But at this point, rather too late in his career... Guess he can just try to salvage his legacy, which has mostly been ruined with his past and current ***gotry... Which he doesn't even seem interested of doing...