Tito and De La Hoya would handily beat what we saw from Garcia and Guerrero

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  1. Rafaman

    Rafaman Active Member Full Member

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    No disrespect to Garcia and Guerrero. An entertaining fight no doubt. But I kept thinking that these 2016 WW's would get beaten very convincingly by Tito and Oscar. Garcias's wide hooks, inconsistent jab and low output would be a walked down by Tito and ODLH would have real success with his jab outboxing Garcia.

    Guerrero cant eat shots like that vs Trinidad, I think Tito breaks him down with the straight right and then dominates with his left hook during inside exchanges for an explosive KO. Oscar's quick footwork is all wrong for Guerrero who basically double jabs, fall in with his left to the clinch. ODLH by late stoppage, I think Oscar's handspeed means a lot of combos land from the outside.

    Just imagine SRL in against Guerrero and Garcia???I dont think we even need to discuss that.
     
  2. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Nobody would dispute that, pal. :good
     
  3. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even past their primes they win. And thats so sad for the fight game.
     
  4. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    Thanks Cpt Obvious.
     
  5. Rafaman

    Rafaman Active Member Full Member

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    You are welcome. Try the veal on Thursdays.
     
  6. Thread Stealer

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    Well that's a given. You don't need to go all the way to undefeated, prime greats (or ATGs depending on your personal criteria) like Oscar and Tito to look at welterweights who would soundly defeat Garcia and Guerrero. A lot of the less accomplished fighters would defeat them too.

    The late 70s/early 80s and the mid to late 90s were "glamour" eras at welterweight. Extremely high in quality, has "superstars" who attract casual fans. But I noticed that in between these eras, there were some very good welterweights who get overlooked. In between those eras, you had Donald Curry. Despite his career not going to expectations, I rank him very highly H2H at 147 during his brief prime. And he beat some pretty solid fighters too. Marlon Starling was a a very good fighter. Could be inconsistent, on a good night he sure as hell would not be an easy fight for Tito or Oscar. Simon Brown was a very good fighter too. Heavy hands, solid skills. Buddy McGirt was an excellent technician who soundly outboxed Brown, and was ranked in the top five P4P the first time he fought Pernell Whitaker, in 1993. Meldrick Taylor was still a good fighter up until the Terry Norris fight. Even after suffering the most heartbreaking of defeats against J.C. Chavez, and taking a horrible beating, he still moved up in weight and defeated a serviceable undefeated champ in Aaron Davis, whom I'd pick over some of the more recent welterweight titleholders (such as Andre Berto, Carlos Baldomir, Victor Ortiz, Marcos Maidana, Adrien Broner). Hell, I'd pick Glenwood Brown, whom Taylor also beat, over some of the recent WW titlists too.

    Taylor ended up losing to Cristano Espana who was another good fighter who would have given lots of fighters issues with his height, range, and skills. He eventually lost his belt to Ike Quartey. I still maintain that Quartey, coming off 17 months of inactivity, should have won against De La Hoya pretty clearly on the cards since Oscar spent so much of the fight, particularly rounds 7 through 11, doing NOTHING.

    Jose Luis Lopez was another talented guy. Not the most dedicated boxer, but he could crack and take a good shot. He put punches together well.

    There were so many very good welterweights who seem to have been forgotten, or at the least, people forget how talented WW was between the two glamour eras of Leonard/Duran/Hearns/Benitez and De La Hoya/Trinidad/Whitaker/Mosley
     
  7. Rafaman

    Rafaman Active Member Full Member

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    Great post. I completely agree.
    Marlon Starling was so talented his fight against Honeyghan was masterclass.

    BTW Guerrero vs Garcia has me rethinking FMJ's H2H ability at 147. Both those guys are good fighters but at 140 and below not at WW . Floyd's defense as always is outstanding but I am doubting his offensive capabilities against some of the names you mentioned. I think he gets backed up too often to win close decisions by bigger and arguably just as athletic fighters like Starling, Curry gives him fits and Terry Norris. Thats not even going to the upper echelon of ATG at 147. Seriously guys how many holes does Guerrero have? and Floyd played it safe vs these caliber of fighters.
     
  8. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Oba Carr would be a P4P GIANT in today's fight game
     
  9. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    They'd beat them NOW.
     
  10. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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  11. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks, Captain Obvious.