Tito Trinidad vs Ike Quartey 147 Pounds

Dude you gotta get real...I know it's not your strong suit but give it a go anyway.

Tito's first 4 or 5 title fights vs Oscar's first 4 or 5 title fights...they are comparable, if anything Tito has an edge there.

He is not just going to hit the scene and start getting the big fights..as you can see not even an Olympic gold medalist can manage that.

By the time Oscar hit welterweight he was a bonafide superstar demanding 8 figure purses...not much before that Tito couldn't even get top billing on some of the cards he was fighting on and he could only dream of that kind of coin.
Hell he even had to fight on a Duva card because King wouldn't cough up for the purse bid...a card he shared with Pea by the way, whom he called out after the bout but to no avail.

Hoya was the cash cow...people fell over each other to fight him..He could pick and choose who he wanted and when he wanted them..thus his resume is one of if not the best of his era.
Tito had to bide his time against admittedly weak opposition until he could break through...King did alright by Tito later on once he could milk him for more but he is essentially responsible for the Quartey and Norris fights getting chernobyled.

Call it an excuse if you want...but in boxing if your a nobody you fight nobodies until you become a somebody.

 

If Quartey couldn't get a decision in a fight he won against Oscar, no way in hell he gets a decision against Don King's Tito Trinidad.

 

Cotto went life and death with Clottey, you don't wanna know what Quartey would have done to him...

 

Tito UD

 

If that makes you feel better about being a Tito fan then believe that.

-But it is an undeniable FACT that

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, that SIX YEARS, and didn't fight the best.
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until Oscar moved up, fought and beat him in 97.
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when Oscar beat him.

Where the **** was Tito?

There is no excuse, but I'd like to see you justify Tito being the longest reigning titlist at WW in the 90's and never fighting any other titlist there, none.

Oscar was the only one that showed he had the balls to fight anyone.

Your other point. Tito having the better opposition in his first 4-5 fights as a titlist. Lets have a look here..

Tito: Maurice Blocker, Luis Garcia, Anthony Stephens, Hector Camacho.

Golden Boy: Pernell Whitaker, David Kamau, Hector Camacho, Wilfredo Rivera.

The very fact that Oscar's FIRST fight at WW was against not only the TRUE WW champion, but against the Rings P4P#1 fighter surpasses anything Tito did probably his entire WW career. FFS Tito never even fought Whitaker until he was dethroned, a coke head, and at the end of Whitaker's career.

 

Agreed.

 

I miss 90's boxing. Tito, Oscar, Whitaker, RJJ, Tyson, Holyfield, RJJ, Chavez, Gatti, Mosley, Toney.... Fantastic ****ing era.

 

atsch

Here's a Boxing lesson for you, you fishnet wearing homosexual.

If you see a punch coming, it has less of an effect. What Mayorga did was basically a trick. Doesn't mean it didn't hurt, but it did mean that Mayorga had time to set his legs, and prepare his neck for the incoming punch.

DLH caught Mayorga with one that he DIDN'T see coming. Thus knocking him down.

This is no way to compare their power, it's two different situations.

Try Boxing sometime.

 

Oscar won the fight with the first lefthook he landed. The expression on Mayorga's face after the 1st Rd KD said it all: He was ****ed.

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The three free power shots Tito landed also changed the momentum of the fight. Mayorga never recovered from the last free shot Tito landed, but he still put up a good fight despite jumping 13 pounds to fight Tito at 160, being out of shape, and allowing himself to get hooked by Tito with his hands down... The difference between Tito and Oscar was that Tito had some help getting Mayorga out of there, while Oscar pretty much won the fight after round 1.

 

Agreed.

I actually prefer DLH over Tito, but you need to consider that Trinidad had been retired a long time when he fought Mayorga. DLH, granted had been in-active following the Hopkins loss, and emergance of Golden Boy, but there is a difference there.

 

I answered all that...but either you didn't read it or don't want to take it in.

I'll boil it down simpler for you in one word...King.

Tito started out with a pretty normal and perfectly acceptable early title reign..TitoSnr got tired of King and got his son to leave him for Duva (clearly angling for a fight with Whitaker and actually getting a fight signed with Quartey)...King reeled him back in, obviously the contract was more water tight then they thought. Tried to get him a fight with Norris, Terry's chin killed that..etc etc.

Did you just forget all this or do choose just to omit it from your rants?
Or maybe you are too young and weren't around at the time...I don't know

Let me make this clear however...Oscar has the far better resume and bested Tito IMO.

But as I said you have to get real...though Tito's body of work is pretty weak..it's not as though he went out of his way to duck people or avoid them..He started out as any other new titlist would and because whilst at welter he never approached the kind of profile Hoya had, he never got the fights that came with it until later on.

Read carefully what I wrote..I said "Oscar's first 4 or 5 title fights..which were:

Bredahl, Campanella, Paez, Griffith and Avila.

What I was getting at there is if a Gold medalist marketing dream needed to start his title run like that...what do you expect from a nobody Rican? It's just ridiculous to expect anything more.

 

Trinidad you have to be a master boxer to keep Trinidad on bay Quartey is durable but not titanium chinned, Tito by KO late in a close fight.

 

This.....close thread :hat

 

I love Oscars left hook but your logic is totally off base....how do you compare a left hook landed when you know its coming compared to a left hook that lands and you are unprepared to defend it, brace for it. :huh

Sorry your completely wrong here.

 

I would say trinidad late stoppage.