Tito vs. Mosley (Prime)

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  1. LogDog69

    LogDog69 Active Member Full Member

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    You know back in the late 1990's and early 2000's there were four boxers that were very popular and were all linked together in some way. These boxers were Trinidad, De La Hoya, Vargas, and Mosley and out of these four fighter we got these fights:

    Trinidad/De La Hoya
    Trinidad/Vargas
    De La Hoya/Vargas
    De La Hoya/Mosley
    Mosley/Vargas

    Everyone fought everyone out of this group except somehow Trinidad vs. Mosley never happened...somehow it slipped through the cracks and I've always wondered who would win this fight. :think

    Give me your expert opinions. :good
     
  2. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Although Mosley has the speed and a nice skill set, I think he's too aggressive for his own good and his "power-boxing" will put him into range for Tito's accurate powerful shots. Mosley is not as good at using lateral movement as someone like Hopkins or De La Hoya, and doesn't have the defensive skills of someone like Winky.

    I think Tito recovers from a 2nd round KD and gets back in the fight with accurate straight powerful shots. I'd make Tito a slight favorite to win it, especially at 154, where I'd make him a bigger favorite than @ 147.
     
  3. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    SSM. I think his handspeed would've eaten Tito alive. He would have to be cautious around Tito but if DLH made Tito bleed that much in 99, no doubt Sugar Shane could've done more damage. Even in 03 the outcome wouldn't change much.

    SSM by late TKO.
     
  4. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I agree with the above post. Mosley has a tendancy to be too stationary at times. I think Tito would KO him.
     
  5. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Mosely wouldve boxed his ears off.
     
  6. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Assuming this fight would be at 147. Mosley has all the tools to win. At this weight he wasnt quite the raw puncher he was at 135, who is, but in his prime here he retained his handspeed, footwork, accuracy and tenacity. He was a very sharp puncher, and could counter, fight inside and where you down or knock you out. Tito in his own right is talented. He is very methodical powerful and epitomizes effective aggression. For a puncher he didnt waste much and was very accurate had underrated hand speed and overrated power. Besides a Shot Maurice Blocker Tito didnt Kayo his top competition at 147. Like ODLH, a past prime Whitaker, or even Hector Camacho but did stop Yori Boy Campus and Fred Pendleton. So this fight will go to a descision. Mosley will be wary of Tito's strength and power so he will box. Of course he will be aggressive in spots, its Mosley, but he has slightly better stamina and far faster hands. This fight will be close be close because Although a little stronger than DLH, his jab was never as good and he is shorter so Tito will get inside more often than when he fought DLH. Nonetheless Mosley UD
     
  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I would LOVED to have seen this fight around the time Trinidad decided to move up to the middleweight tournament.

    Both were undefeated around that time and I think it would have been an exceptional match-up, with Mosley prevailing.
     
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  9. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    at 147 it would pickem fight, shane dont really box to me.fast and strong and comes out with blinding speed and good power.

    the fight would be good, i can see it going either way by ud or tko.
     
  10. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Nice breakdown, Black.

    Good points on the differences between the two at the two weight classes. As you illustrated, they were polar opposites in that regard.
     
  11. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I see this as a much closer fight than the poll indicates.

    Shane Mosley didn't have the natural size of Bernard Hopkins and Winky Wright, the two boxers who "schooled" Trinidad, and he wasn't a master defensive technitian as they were. Adding to that, Mosley didn't have the jab of Winky to control the fight with nor the counter punching ability of Bernard Hopkins. De La Hoya, who gave Trinidad major problems and arguably beat him, did so with his lateral movement, making it hard for Trinidad to cut off the ring or get set to punch where he could really do damage. Why? Because Trinidad didn't exactly have the best footwork or balance. Mosley didn't utilize lateral movement as well as Oscar. And his tendency to trade shots, fight like a warrior, and neglect movement at times would probably not bode well for him, as Trinidad was the harder puncher and if they got into a slugfest, Trinidad would find the mark and with his devestating shots, get the better of Mosley.

    But Mosley has something that could frustuate Trinidad and win him the fight. What is that? Handspeed. If Mosley could use some good lateral movement and throw quick combinations and get right back out of range, moving away from Trinidad's left hook, he would cause him major problems. And Trinidad doesn't have the jab of a Winky Wright or a Vernon Forrest. He wasn't the boxer those guys were. Shane, while not the counter puncher Hopkins was as I mentioned earlier, could counter punch effectively, so he would need to counter some of Trinidad's big shots to frusturate him and get some real respect. This would be a dangerous fight for Mosley because of Trinidad's lethal power, so he would have to respect him and not get into too many exchanges. Stick, move, and out-speed Trinidad would be a perfect gameplan for Sugar Shane.

    At 147, I would call this a 50/50 fight. I would pick Trinidad based on Mosley's tendency to slug, his smaller size, and the fact that he is not as good defensively as Hopkins or Wright. I would not be surprised if Mosley won though because he does have the tools to create problems for Trinidad.

    At 154, Trinidad is the favorite as Mosley didn't have the same speed he once did nor the blinding combinations. Trinidad would have won it at 154.
     
  12. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don King, Felix Sr and Tito were all at ringside, first row in "The War at hundred fifty four" and you could see Tito was enthusiastic about Shane's style but Winky pulled it off and Trinidad's was one of a deceptive smile. Trinidad lost at 160 but fancied that one at 154.
    At their primes, Tito puts on a bravura performance like against Vargas and hits Shane with that left hook many times and possibly has Shane backing up late. Similar to Oscar De La Hoya vs Shane Mosley I with Shane hitting Tito twice as much with his right.
     
  13. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    co-sign
     
  14. joito3

    joito3 Active Member Full Member

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    Tito by a serious beatdown....Mosley isn't a defensive phenom and he is too small....


    Tito would have had a field day with mosley's big head
     
  15. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I mistakenly voted for Mosley. I think Mosley's defense and his tendency to slug are all wrong to Tito.