I think this fight is a great idea. It'll be a put up or shut up fight for Kimbo. Hey, if you're on the cover of SI, and you headline the first ever MMA card on network TV, then you can't use the bull**** excuse that you aren't ready to fight a guy. Whether Kimbo and his team like it or not, they will have to step up the competition significantly at some point, or Slice will be exposed as the freak show joke of a fighter that many people think he is. Tito may not be the same fighter he once was, but I highly doubt his skills have degraded enough that he can't beat Kimbo. But who knows, stranger things have happened. Kimbo can punch and Tito could get caught.
Tito is going to ****start Kimbos face with elbows, and you belong in a funny farm if you think otherwise.
i don't think tito is stronger than thompson in any way, thompson has less skills and terriible striking and gnp but he is strong.
I don't like Tito one bit, but he would paddle Kimbo like a small child. If Mr. Slice can't cope with the "DVD inspired" takedowns of James Thompson, Ortiz would toss him on his back within seconds. And unlike JT, even a washed up Ortiz knows how to GnP his way to a TKO victory. Unless Kimbo's beard really does double as a padded chin guard, I think Mr. Slice would be begging Tito not to make his face as ugly as Jenna's.
Like Sherk/ Penn was going to be the fight of the millenium and anyone who didn't agree was a moron who needed to find another sport?
Well I never said that, I said it was the biggest LW fight ever, it was. This is gonna look like an old Gracies in Action video with a kung fu guy getting immediately taken down and beat senseless.
Tito all the way, he may not be as good as he used to but he would really dominate Elite XC. Kimbo has been nothing but a disappointment. He may be a baby in the MMA sport but I don't think he takes training seriously, I mean his cardio is absolute ****!!! Tito has been fighting huge names his whole career and if he didn't when he usually manged to hang on to a desicion (with few exceptions). Bottom line is Tito would make Kimbo look foolish. If this fight happens and Tito loses someone can rub this thread in my face, but I doubt that will ever happen.
People have been really hard on "Kimbo Slice", Kevin Ferguson. At first, I was skeptical, watching those street fights he was in on Youtube. But, I think Slice deserves credit for hooking up with Bas Rutten, taking on good challenges (the guy is VERY green, and already has victories over a shot Tank Abbot and James Thompson, despite suffering some early adversity). Gives the guy some time - he had a lot of trouble with James Thompson before pulling out the stoppage, but consider that was, what, his fourth professional fight? I find it encouraging that the guy hung in there, showed some heart, and punched back when it was necessary. But on the other hand, here's my criticism of the "Slice": 1. His nickname is annoying. His real name is Kevin Ferguson, but few know that. 2. It's not a terribly good thing that his competitive origins come from street-fighting. 3. Everytime Jimmy Lennon Jr. anounces the guy, he not only does not mention his real name, he always calls him the "street-fighting legend". Hopefully he will move past that. 4. Obviously, a guy like Ferguson is going to need heavy work on his ground skills. Just imagine a fight between Slice and Brock Lesnar (I would favor Lesnar). 5. We all know we WANT to see Ferguson fight Mike Tyson, but that probably would not be a positive step for Mixed Martial-Arts, a glorified street-fighter-turned-professional versus the aged former Heavyweight Boxing Champion.
Lesnar would whip Kimbo in one round. He hits harder and has much better grappling skills. I think it probably wouldn't last two minutes.
kimbo is way bigger than tito he would win if tito could not get him down. if tito gets him down its over. I'd say tito by tko on ground unless he gets caught trying or looses his strength at heavyweight.
Decent point. Tito was a benificiary of being one of the first guys in MMA to really find a perfect weightclass where he could just about cut down into into it and be bigger than everyone else. He started getting ass-whuppings from Liddell and Couture et al largely becasue they were his size or bigger, and not just them being bad style match-ups for him.
That might be the case, but there's certainly no evidence from Tito's recent performances that he actually has anything left. Tito has been a notorious overtrainer for the better part of a decade, hes only in his early 30's but he's an old man in terms of wear and tear. You could argue that Tito 'has enough' to beat Kimbo on the grounds that Kimbo himself is just absolute garbage, which is fair enough, but I wouldnt be surprised if Ortiz's knees are so shot he couldn't get KS down and ending up getting KO'd.
Not really, Kimbo weighs 235, Tito would cut from 225 or so at LHW, and without having to worry about getting back down could pretty easily go up to 235.