TMT was created to break up Floyd's relationship with Haymon

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  1. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Floyd doesn't need Al Haymon to manage his interests. Floyd has spectacular business acumen and everything he touches turns to money.

    Maybe you've heard of a little product called Lottery Soda? I rest my case.
     
  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    yeah I know you're being sarcastic. Floyd isn't as business smart as he thinks and that's why Haymon is important to have around
     
  3. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Then what's Ellerbe's role? Seriously, as big as Floyd is, why does he need an advisor? What exactly has floyd done the last few years that he could not have done w/o Haymon's inclusion?
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    yeah i'm sure a harvard graduate of economics would agree on a flat rate when all his other fighters pay on a percentage basis.
     
  5. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    come on Lance. Do you really think Floyd is smart or qualified enough to handle all the contractual and financial stuff on his own?
    Serious question

    Plus Ellerbe advises Floyd too. You can have as many advisers as you want. You don't have to exactly pay them for it. Your mom can be an adviser. But Ellerbe also is CEO of Mayweather Promotions and he (according to Ben Thompson) is Floyd's strength and conditioning coach.

    A flat fee from Floyd Mayweather Jr. is a much better deal than a percentage from Erislandy Lara.
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    I knonw Floyd isn't. But having two advisors doesn't make a lick of sense in this case. Like I asked, what does Haymon bring that Ellerbe cannot handle? Does Floyd have a manager as well?
     
  7. macho_grande

    macho_grande "I'll never get over" Full Member

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    **** off you ****.

    When Floyd says he's his own boss, do you honestly think that means he does everything for himself? Negotiating, sponsorship, contracts etc?

    Al Haymon is about as connected as you can get. Floyd makes far more with Al Haymon then he ever could without him.
     
  8. Imperial1

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    We all know that Floyd would not be where he is today without Haymon ..He even admitted that ..
     
  9. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    and i'm sure haymon knows this but what stops him from asking floyd the same payment scheme when he can make more and he knows that floyd needs him as what you guys are saying?
     
  10. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you know how powerful haymon is?:lol:
     
  11. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    people can have multiple advisers. Ellerbe me advise Floyd on boxing related things and Haymon could be business. And the role of manager goes to Haymon himself. Haymon has more influence than Ellerbe.

    Some have called Haymon the most powerful man in boxing
    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--the-25-most-powerful-people-in-boxing.html
    (the overall list sucks though)

    1. Al Haymon – The most powerful guy in boxing is also its most mysterious. You'll rarely, if ever, see him in front of a television camera and you'll never catch him speaking to a reporter. He's not a promoter. He's not a manager. But when Haymon says jump, plenty of people in boxing listen.
    He's referred to as an adviser, which is a smart way to avoid having to be licensed by an athletic commission and to skirt the Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act. It's illegal in the U.S. to serve as a promoter and a manager, though Haymon does both.

    But what he does is, he'll hire a promoter to, essentially, buy his or her license for an event. So, while, say, Gary Shaw Productions may be the promoter of record for an event, he's doing so at the direction of Haymon. It's Shaw who has to follow the regulations required of a promoter by the state athletic commissions, not Haymon, but it's Haymon making the calls.
    He also directs the careers of many fighters, serving as a de facto manager. But while managers are required to be licensed by the states, advisers are not.

    He's involved with a slew of the sport's biggest stars, including the biggest, Floyd Mayweather Jr. When Haymon wants one of his fighters on television, he gets it. His fighters compete when he says, where he says, on the network he wants and generally for what he asks purse-wise.
    There's no one more powerful than that.
     
  12. puga_ni_nana

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    are you mad? :lol:

    yet you guys, on that same account, are blasting pac for letting TR handle all his promotional stuffs when pac, is a much busier guy than floyd ever was. and floyd pays not only one but two entities. haymon and GBP.
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    **** off cheerleaderm wasn't talking to you. Your opinions means **** to me....
     
  14. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well if this is true, it's clear as day why Floyd and 50 couldn't agree on the TMT ****. Dumb as hell if they thought Floyd was going to stop working with Haymon after the money Floyd has made with him.
     
  15. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    :lol: