To all of you that are supporting Floyd and his antics...

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  1. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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  2. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    I dont have to prove **** to you...Why in the **** are you even talking to me?:rofl

    Remember you dont waste your time with little kids (quote on quote) but you sure seem to have you bitchass on my jock everytime...***** move on...you gets nothing from me!:good

    You grumpy, no ***** getting ass, serial killa looking motha****a!:rofl

    No one takes you seriously! What the **** you gone do...Sue me???:lol::rofl
     
  3. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My problem with the situation is what it turned into. If those accusations weren't thrown around by Floyd Sr for months followed up by Floyd Jr. on Joe Buck live, I think we'd have been in for a much easier negotiation.
    We had one man being accused throughout the media. So while the tests would have been equal for both men, it was viewed as generally a test that Manny needed to prove he was clean and not intended for Floyd.
    Negotiations are one thing but illegal drugs are ILLEGAL. So whether in the boxing ring or on the street Manny was accused of being a criminal.

    In the end I hope they settle on something where they can cut off 3-5 days before fight night. Like it or not the general public makes their decisions based on what they hear. So Manny is the bad guy.
     
  4. Rudyard

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    I dont think its being Manny as being the bad guy...Maybe thats were our opinions differ...If I was Manny I would take the test to prove that Sr. and other who are alleging that I'm on the juice wrong...Killing them with facts is the best way to nullify a false accusation? Wouldnt you agree?

    IMO with Manny not agreeing to the test, he isnt helping his case one bit (but thats just my personal opinion so dont beat me up for it:lol:)


    A cut off date needs to be compromised if that the problem from this historic fight from happening, but to be totally honest...I think this is a ploy to grab the attention of hardcore and casual fans. Could be wrong but I sure as hell hope thats the case!
     
  5. ???

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    Why is this so hard to comprehend? Pac's camp is willing to have blood tested, but isn't willing to be subjected to middle of the night demands for a blood sample, or tests three days in a row, or perhaps even three tests in one day. This is the kind of stuff they'd be opening themselves up to if they agreed to random testing. Balking at this level of intrusion sounds more like a guy that is comfortable in his innocence and isn't willing to compromise his training and performance with these extraordinary demands. The testing he has agreed to should be enough. Now if all boxers were required to submit to Olympic-style random blood testing in order to fight professionally, that would be an accepted part of being a pro fighter.

    It's absurd to think Manny needs these alleged PEDs so badly that he would immediately start taking them after giving a blood sample and then trust them to clear before he gives a post-fight sample. All while providing unlimited urine samples. David Banner in January, to Hulk and back to David Banner after the final bell, all with perfect timing because the blood tests weren't random... that's some serious sci-fi fantasy **** some of you guys are talking about.
     
  6. Rudyard

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    What part of Random are you not understanding...If Manny gets to choose his dates...it defeats the purpose of a RANDOM drug test!:lol:

    Try again!:rofl

    Edit: If they agreed why are their speculation on Pacman still not signing the contract...I'm going by facts here buddy, not assumptions!
     
  7. ???

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    Are you serious? Nobody is defining what Pac's camp has said they would be willing to accept as random blood testing. Random testing entails being subject to middle of the night visits to draw blood and testing up to the day of the fight. These testers could theoretically wake you up at 2am several days in a row. That wouldn't interfere with training and recovery, would it? You have conceded that you've seen conflicting research as to what can and can't be detected in urine vs blood. Most of the talk is of Manny being on steroids. I don't know of any research that says steroids are only detectable in blood.
     
  8. bald_head_slick

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    Damaged by who? Him flip flopping answers and ducking tests. Had he just said, "No." it would have been cool. Instead he started talking nonsense. His bad.
     
  9. bald_head_slick

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    Man you can't be serious? You think the USADA could exist if it pulled crap like this? Sports are customers. You can't crap on the customer. If this was the case every athlete in the sport would be up in arms about the testing. :bart

    Then again you probably believe FMJ has the USADA in his hip pocket. :patsch
     
  10. Rudyard

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    :patsch Do honestly think they're going to wake Manny up in the Middle of the night for some drug test?

    Are you kidding me?:rofl The point of me constanly saying Random because Manny is trying to tell and dictate when he can take a test...I'm only going by what Manny has been saying...Its kinda hard to find out what Manny really mean because he's constanly changing his stance about the issue.
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    floyd would be subjected to same tests, dont see him bitchin bout bein called a cheat, or havin trainin disrupted
     
  12. ???

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    Their protocol makes clear they are allowed to.

    [url]http://www.usantidoping.org/files/videos/testing/popup-qt-ooc-high.html[/url]

    "Athletes involved in the out-of-competition testing program could be contacted at any time, anywhere, with no advance notice."

    Isn't that the point of random testing? You don't want the subject to have any idea when you might show up.
     
  13. renyo

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    They have done this to other athletes. So there's no telling what they might do if they were to be involved, That's the can of worms they didn't want to open. The reality is most knowledgeable athletes know that urine is as conclusive as blood in any situation. It's all operator determined, if the lab tech knows his job and what to look for they can find anything. It depends on what they are testing for. I think they were trying to take Manny for a ride and out of his comfort zone. :good
     
  14. auggiewest

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    Steroids is detected in urine samples..Its Human Growth Hormone that is detected in an Olympic Style Blood test..I believe Mayweather's camp is angling towards the assumption that Manny may use HGH
     
  15. renyo

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    HGH blood tests in the olympics have found zero positives. The positive test that have come back they have also been having problems with because it naturally occurs in the body. There are also natural supplement you can take to raise these levels. So at the moment they don't have a definitive test. But there is a urine test available and is believed to be as accurate as blood.