To all those who had Haye winning......

It'll take more than a win over Sexton to get Audley a shot.

 

I see where this comes from. Froch was somewhat more effective than Valuev but Dirrell was also landing more than Haye.

It really should be scored the same way each time, Valuev and Froch were too ineffective.

 

i knew this would come up,i always like boxers to fight not run grab and hold,that in effect was the big differance in both fights,not once did i see haye jab,jump in and clinch,(as it seems,dirrel dus in all his fights)would of been suicide against a ape of a man,whereas dirrel did just that for about 10 of the 12 rounds,spoit it and lost the decision for me.

 

I think Haye and Dirrell won but all this comparing two fights that were entirely different is pretty redundant.

 

You can't score points against Dirrell for holding or falling to the floor in embarrassing fashion I'm afraid. Not unless the ref took points. While you are doing that you might as well deduct a few points from Froch for constant rabbit punching.

 

It's not about wether Dirrell landed more than Haye.

It's about wether Dirrell landed more than Froch (In my opinion no).
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It's about wether Haye landed more shots than Valuev (in my opinion yes).

It doesn't matter if Haye were to only land 3 shots all fight. As long as Valuev landed less Haye deseves to win!

 

Are you joking? The only way you can score it for Froch is for perceived negativity from Dirrell and Froch's aggression. Whether it was effective I doubt and whether Froch was actually the ring general I also doubt.

Clean punches it ain't even a contest, Froch landed **** of quality. How many good power punches did Froch land? Tell me which rounds to look out for Froch's good punching and I'll have a look.

 

Agreed, I saw a stat that Haye landed 3 times as many punches as Valuev, now no matter what fasion those punches were landed, he could be looking away with his eyes closed, if they were connecting scoring punches, he deserves the win!!

 

I agree dirrell froch was very close, but Val Haye wasnt

 

Not that I'm a big fan of stats but they do back up what I'm saying.
Froch's jab to the body I believe have largely been ignored. Don't get me wrong I didn't think it was a good performance. But at the fight I thought he landed more, when I watched the replay I felt he landed more and the stats back this up.

When Dirrell traded he looked good but this didn't happen untill the 10th and it was too late.

 

Total Bollocks.

It was a close fight and I can respect people who had it close either way.

But your statement is idiocy!

 

If the jab to the chest was the punch that 'won' the fight for Froch that pretty much sums it up. He did land a few but it was hardly stuff of quality. Dirrell was catching him with short hooks and rolling away.

 

I didn't say that was the punch that won him the fight. I was saying this affected the number of punches landed.

I thought in general Froch's bodywork was ok and the jab was ok.

Dirrell in my opinion just didn't do enough.

It will be interesting to see him against AA. I think he may open up more than in the froch fight which will be interesting to see what he's got.

I'll reserve judgement on Dirrell till then though as for me you couldn't learn much about him in the froch fight.