My mates believe the UFC is just thugs who learn a bit of boxing and a bit of wrestling, and then go into the Octagon trying to smash each others' skulls in with elbows and knees, and the most muscled and most aggressive bully is the winner. To be honest, I thought that myself till about a year ago. Then my friend showed me videos of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu in action. And I saw the light. For anyone else who thinks MMA is merely savagery and barbarism, I would suggest they watch the Georges St Pierre v Thiago Alves fight. GSP was in there against a bigger, heavier, more powerful, more aggressive fighter, but his well-rounded grasps of different varieties of pugilism and his stunningly high skill level in wrestling and striking allowed him to control the action. He wasn't just backpedalling as Bisping tried to do against Henderson, he didn't have the size advantage that Lesnar had that allowed him to dominate Mir, this was just pure skill and ability allowing him to dictate. The guy is a tremendous advert for the UFC, and living proof that MMA is a highly, highly skilled event. :bbb
I havent seen that fight yet but Ive seen plenty of GSP, he is a top 3 p4per, no doubt, between him & Silva for 2nd place, Fedor is the best. His BJJ has come on in leaps & bounds in recent yrs, since Renzo Grazie gave him his black belt. I do BJJ myself (tho Ive been off for about 6 months, bad idea, rust sets in if you miss even 2 weeks) & it really is a high skilled art, very effective in real fights. Its just like boxing in the sense that if your not dedicated, you fall behind quickly & there are so many moves & counters to moves, its a vicious painfull circle .... but its a great thing to get into, especially if you do boxing, it helps cut out a boxers only weakness in a street fight, being taken down. Ive met Royce Gracie twice, phenomenal flexibility the man has, he throws my instructor around easier than my instructor does to me, scary level these guys are at. Anyone who discredits BJJ obviously hasnt rolled with a good BJJ guy, its the **** to know. :good
Great post, interesting read mate. Where do you do BJJ? In Glasgow? I don't have the time to learn what with work, studying, and boxing training. Do you know of a good book on BJJ?
MMA not being skill is pathetic. You can argue that MMA is a case of someone being a jack of all trades, a master of none. Even the style they are supposed to be masters of they can't fully implement so they don't look as good as they could. It's the nature of the game. But even a fighter who has learnt 7 styles and looks basic in all of them is incredbily skilled.
:good I used to be like that as well. I used to lose interest soon as it went to ground but thankfully i grew out of that and now BJJ fighters are my favorite to watch. There's nothing better than watching a MMA fight and someone pulls a submission from the bottom.
I train/trained in Rutherglen... it used to be in the kelvin hall but R`glen is better as we have the hall to ourselves & get about an hour & a half, kelvin hall was 1 hour on the dot & then you had the Taekwondo guys standing waiting for the hall outside, pain in the ass when your against the clock. Im not sure of any books but my instructor loaned me Gracie instructiuonal DVDs a while back, loads of stuff, about 4 hrs worth, I only had them a week but if they were mine to keep they would defo help, good stuff, it teaches you a lot, its Royce & Rorion that are in it.
Definately was an excellent fight, and Alves did a fantastic job to get up as many times as he did in the earlier rounds. If you guys really like a solid ground fight, I'd highly recommend watching the Demian Maia vs. Jason MacDonald fight at UFC 87. If you have a small grasp of BJJ, and different types of submissions, you'll find it pretty entertaining. If you have an in-depth grasp of BJJ and the sophisticated techniques used in escapes and body positioning, you'll absolutely love this fight. Easily one of my favorites ever. (And I've seen every UFC/Pride/Affliction/WEC(34-41) fight, as well as many many fights in smaller shows.)
Geez a real hardcore MMA fan. Welcome to the forum brother So out of all the fights you've seen what would your favourite 5 be? and whats the worst injury you've ever seen in a MMA fight? and whats the most savage beating?
Hello. Been here for a bit. Did a Q&A with some hardcore boxing fans and they're, generally speaking, not the most receptive bunch, but I like martial arts in just about any form. (Which, of course, includes boxing) Favorite 5, well....that's tough. Because are you asking 5 more exciting? 5 most technical fights? 5 most important fights? Because I prefer a very technical fight, both on the feet and on the ground. In no particular order, I'd have to say Forrest Griffin vs. Stephen Bonnar (The Ultimate Fighter Finale) Jason MacDonald vs. Demian Maia (UFC 87) Mike Brown vs. Urijah Faber 2 (WEC 40) Georges St. Pierre vs. Jon Fitch (UFC 87) Georges St. Pierre vs. Matt Hughes III (UFC 79) Well, considering the very strict standards of safety in organized and sanctioned MMA, there are very, very few serious injuries. Most of which are preventable and the worst I can think of that was sustained during a fight was probably that one fighter not tapping to an arm bar at UFC Fight for the Troops. He was caught, he had no defense to it, but he refused to tap and he paid the price. Arm snapped in half. (Another one was Rich Franklin vs. Anderson Silva I where Franklin had to have reconstructive surgery on the bridge of his nose) And, again...there aren't too many "savage" beatings because as soon as a referee deems you're not "intelligently defending yourself," it stops. So, there isn't really any prolonged punishment. Can't really give a clear cut answer on that one. Sorry.
Oh yeah! I remember watching him! First thing I saw was the name Carlos Newton and I didn't know who Sakuraba was and I thought Newton is going to run right over this guy. BOOM! That was such an intense fight. And I still to this day have no freakin' clue how Sakuraba was able to pull off these weird takedowns and maneuvers... He also beat the heck out of Vitor Belfort...shoulda seen Belfort's legs. Looked brutal.
that was one great performance that gsp put on,and also alves is a great fighter and the loss will make him better and much more hungrier to get back up and get another rematch
