To be Fair is Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua, and Tyson Fury overrated?

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  1. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Please, were taking h2h? On the eye test, they own the old, slow, tiny ATGs of old.
     
  2. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Mercer ??
    Do you mean Holmes ?
     
  3. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    There has never been a 6'6" guy with speed and power like Joshua.

    Even Lennox and Klitscho were not as big. And Fury is 6'9" - and can move well.

    It's a different era
     
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  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Highly unlikely, Mercer was horribly inconsistent, on a good day he was a handful for anyone but even then he lost simply because he was often out worked. He'd never be undisputed simply because he could never be consistent enough to get all the belts.

    One fight he beats Wilder or Joshua or at the very least gives them a tough fight, next fight he doesn't train and loses to Whyte or Miller who simply out work him on a bad day.

    As for how good the top guys are now, it's hard to say you'd favour them over the best of previous era's but that's always the case when comparing to past era's. It's always an unbalanced comparison as we can judge past fighters by their entire achievements while we cannot do that with the current crop as their entire careers have yet to play out.

    I remember in the 90's, people said Holyfield was too small and just holding the belt until Tyson returned. Lewis was basic, boring and only had a 1-2 and it was Bowe who was seen as the potential great and we all saw what happened there. Clearly Bowe was arguably the worst of the 4 and the 2 guys who were written off in Evander and Lewis were the most dominant champions of that era.

    Maybe guys like Joshua and Wilder in later years, as champions, they will be seen like Dokes or Weaver, but then again maybe they'll be up there with the Lewis', Foreman's, Marciano's, Tyson's and Ali's. We can't say for sure what they'll go onto achieve and how that alters how we rate them in comparison to past greats.
     
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  5. boxinggenuis

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    Totally disagree. All three of these guys would beat everyone in your list except Lewis. And maybe Holyfield because his heart was uncommon.

    The rest of those guys were far from great when comparing them to guys the size of Wilder, Joshua and Fury.

    Look at Tyson for instance, he got knocked out by freaking Buster Douglas who was only 6'4. But with Tyson all you had to do was lean on him and tie him up. What could he possibly do against the monsters of today? Nothing.
     
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  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rose tinted glasses syndrome for sure,all unbeaten in their era and against the other greats theyed all have wins and some losses as it should be.
     
  7. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol it’s right
     
  8. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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  9. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It could be argued that out of all major sports boxing as regressed instead of progress.
     
  10. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Even if either Wilder, Fury, or Joshua comes out on top it still doesn't change the fact that there resume doesn't match up to other great HWs
     
  11. MAJR

    MAJR Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The unavoidable truth is that nothing beats nostalgia and no current fighters will ever be compared favorably to those of the past.
     
  12. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What you're doing is preparing for when Wilder is on top so you can still discredit him. So you think Wilder will come out on top so the whole division has to be bums. I get it, you're just hating.
     
  13. gold

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    You have your head in the clouds because a prime Klitschko would stop all three in the same night.
    One hard right from 42 year old Klitschko and Joshua fell like a sack of manure.
     
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  14. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    One or Two fighters doesn't make an era that's something you're not getting. I'm not going to argue what would of happened with a younger Klitschko, with Emanuel Stewart still alive prodding him to finish AJ, you could be right, or you could be wrong.
     
  15. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To be fair Wilder, Joshua, and Fury can't really be compared with the past greats until their careers are over. Joshua only has 21 fights and is still young and Fury only has 26 fights and is 29. Wilder has 40 fights and at 32 has at least another 3-4 good years in him.
     
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