To be fair, is Wilder really as bad as people make him out to be?

Guy was stunned by Artur Szpilka. He’s really poor. He wins because of superb strength and being the fresher fighter (usually fights hasbeens, old men etc.

 

Look at some of the modern LHW sized guys who dropped Ali and Holmes. If you held them to the ridiculous standard you hold Wilder then they are rubbish.

 

Do people really make him out to be "bad" though?

I mean, its pretty obvious hes not the most skilled or versatile fighter. But hes still 6'7, athletic, gritty and everybody acknowledges his ATG punching power. Those attributes give him at least a solid punchers chance against anybody in the current division.

 

Go back 10 years ago and Wlad was considered to be relatively very poor by many boxing fans. As you move away from the era the stock of retired fighters rise.

Whyte and Ruiz were favoured to beat Wilder by this forum a couple of years ago, which goes to show how skewed the perception has been. How many today would have picked those guys in retrospect?

 

Wilder's skills are pretty bad. His trainer, Breland said he was at the same level around 13 years old or something. However, Wilder does have two things going for him: his power and his heart. Plus, he has physical talent like speed and he's tall.

 

He's a tremendous fighter, head to head I'd pick him over past so called greats like ali, foreman, frazier, holmes. That being said he is a shitty human being as are his fans. No doubt I respect his heart and he has the hardest right hand boxing has ever seen.

 

He has as draw against Fury that he did not deserve.

Ortiz was never, at any point, the second most skillful heavy, not even when he fought with Jack Johnson in Murderer's row.

His timing sucks...he was outboxed by guys like Szpilka and Molina for most of their fights. His jab was good in one fight.

Tommy Hearns...what an odd comparison. Are you thinking of a similar lanky fighter?

Lyle, Norton, Morrison and Mercer were not "elite." You are right that similar to Wilder, they were flawed guys who brought something to the table. The elite of the day of Lyle and Norton were Ali, Frazier and Forman, and the elite of the day of Morrison and Mercer were Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis and Bowe.

Wilder is fourth or fifth best heavy of this era. Maybe six.

 

Let's not overreact, should we ? He had right hand, and that's it. Insane one, but no more, no less.

 

Yes he is.

Wilder only notable win against Ortiz who is last two fight found his level nearly losing against Chatles Martin (I would regard as not being one AJ best 7 opponents he has beaten) and being dropped twice. Now being dropped mutiple times and losing to Andy Ruiz.

Apart from that Wilder struggled against low level opposition in Spzilka, Washington and Duhaupas.

 

Ex timing your punches on Spzilka , is not some rocket science, right ? Come on Spzilka ......
If he was actually decent his resume would look completely different, than currently is.

 

We'd all like to be as bad as Wilder.

Just making an olympic team and medaling is pretty good when you start boxing late at 20 years old.
Winning any world championship is pretty good.
Knocking out Tyson Fury off his feet five times isn't all luck.
Making millions of dollars as a professional boxer. It almost sounds like a success story.

 

It could mean, if Szpilka wasn't so bad. Let's not also forget that the same guy already have lost to f***** Bryant Jennings. Then was KO by Kownacki in the 4th, then KOed by Chisora in the 2 round, and then was KOed by unknown guy in the very first round.


His chin is terrible. And that fight actually make Wilder looks way worst. He was outboxed soundly till the 9 round, by a glass chin bum.

But i wanna see Wilder with Ruiz, as well as with Parker, and even with Chisora and see how great his power actually is.


It's absolutely disagree his resume, having in mind how many good fights he could have make, and not waste his career beating tomato cans and truck drivers.

At one point i liked him and hoping to be the real deal, but it didn't turn out unfortunately.

 

No.

Not remotely true.