To be honest Margarito beat Cotto at his own game ...

the things that kill me

- margarito now on p4p lists
- margarito above cotto on p4p lists
- cotto out of p4p lists
- Paul Williams # 4 on espn p4p ww list


Tony did his thing but people are getting they patnies in a bunch over saturdays fight... i cant wait for this saturday.. hopefully zab and clottey steal the spot light

 

He definately beat Cotto when it would appear Cotto was the **** at welterweight, stopped the rising star if for only right now, but I don't know if Williams will win as easily as last time. Marg corrected his early round performances which is what gave Williams his edge. Now, I do think Williams won that fight clearly but Marg started to rock him in the late rounds and by the end Marg looked to be on top. So, if Marg starts the way he starts nowadays and keeps his pace I can see the fight ending by ko for Marg. Either way it will be very competitive and would swing either direction on a dime.

 

the espn list for ww is like this

1- marg
2- cotto
3- shane
4- pw
5- zab
6- clottey
7- kermit
8- colazo
9- berto
10- quintana

this list is alllll over the damn place

 

I believe the WW list should look like this now:

1.Margarito
2.Cotto
3.Williams
4.Mosley
and then the rest are all at roughly the same level.
(*IMO if a guy beats the no1, he becomes the no1. Cotto was no1, Margo beat him, Margo jumps to no1. That's the way it was in the old days of one champion, and it should still be the way it is now. Yes Williams beat Margo, but Quintana beat Williams, Cotto beat Quintana, Margo beat Cotto, etc... You can't work out the rankings by the old a beat b who beat c nonsense, gets too complicated. If you beat the no1, you are the no1 til someone beats you. IMO)

Margarito WILL beat Williams if there is a rematch. I hope there is, it would be an epic.

 

imo.. it should go

1-marg
2-pw
3-cotto
4-shane
5-zab
6-clottey
7-colazo
8-berto
9-quintana
10-cintron

 

Why is Collazo above Cintron? That makes no sense.

 

ESPN has terrible rankings.

1. PW
1. Margarito
3.Cotto
4. Quintana
5. Clottey
6. Judah
7. Berto
8. Collazo
9. Cintron
10. doesn't matter

 

I almost can't believe I'm saying this, but... good post fitzgeraldz!!

The only parts I disagree with are those I put underlined, but hey if we all agreed it would be a dull old forum. I appreciate that Margo did indeed beat Cotto at his own game, and I echo your congrats to Margarito.

IMO, he is becoming something quite special though, and he will beat Williams if they fight.

People never recognize that you don't have to be a silky speedy graceful elegant boxer to be a ****ing brilliant fighter. Many of the greats of boxing history do not conform to this style. Duran for one. Henry Armstrong for another. Chavez for another. Hagler for another. There are many more.

No, Tony Margarito cannot box like Floyd Mayweather. But boxing is a physical sport. And Margarito does the physical side so so well that he doesn't need to concentrate on style and skill. And why should his own attributes be rated as inferior to the typical silky boxer? He is one of the best in the game today.

 

cause hes a better boxer.... and faced better competition

 

Margaritos bigest strength is his will, and it is true that he is beatable every one is we are all human, but he has tremendous will and a concrete chin, he can be outpointed by a really good fast boxer, but anyone going in trying to impose their will and break him down are going to be in for a long night.

 

One thing your forgetting, although he did get revenge, Williams got his ass kicked by Quintana which takes him down from #1. Margarito deserves it with his drubbing of an elite undefeated fighter. If Williams wins the rematch, obviously he goes to 1.

 

I would think the winner of a rematch between Williams and Margarito would be the WW champ

 

What the hell is Judah still doing so high up...he got beat by BALDOMIR!!!

Berto is unproven and has been put down by a journeyman

Cintron should be higher than Collazo

Mosley is ten times better than Judah

Clottey is solid and lasted 12 with Margo even with damaged hands

Quintana had his ass handed to him by Williams in the rematch