To everyone who thought it was a good stoppage

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by aj415, Dec 5, 2015.


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  1. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nah. The thing is you don't even know how it would play out. A good stoppage is a good stoppage. That was a bad premature stoppage, but ey man Tennis season is comin soon
     
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  2. Rumsfeld

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    That seems to be the minority outlook from dissenting factions. I thought it was a good stoppage myself.
     
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  3. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought it was perhaps a hair too soon. But as I see it, 1 more solid punch finishes Quillin. He'd been hurt several times already. Was showing no real ability to defend. Jacobs was teeing off at will. It was more likely that he was going to punch himself out than Quillin doing anything to hold him off IMO.

    A hair too soon for my taste, but from the ref's perspective and going by the mantra of "better a punch too soon", I ain't complaining.
     
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  4. #1Rounder

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    Can anyone tell me why the ref even jumped in to separate them in the first place??? Wtf was he doing?? There was no clinch, they were not tied up, there was no KD... He wasn't jumping in to stop the fight immediately.. The ref made an error by getting in the way.. Once he realized he fkd up, then he looks at Quillen and sees he is shaky, but he should have never jumped in to separate them at that point..
     
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  5. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea, I like tennis, you gotta be mentally tough to compete in that sport too. How the **** do you think the fight would have turned out? Q couldn't keep him off when he was fresh, but now he's gonna fight back, recover, and last when he was gone. Jim Gray asked him: do you want an immediate rematch, Quillin said: Don't play with matches. Dude was still gone after the fight.
     
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  6. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe maybe not, your not nostradomus neither am I
     
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  7. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I just assumed he was gonna give him a standing count, even though your right he should have waited til he got KD cus its not like the ropes even held him up or anything.

    The ref was just panicked man
     
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  8. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Man that stoppage was horsesh*t period you can say he was done til your blue in the face thats not how you referee in boxing championship bouts
     
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  9. YCGS

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    Then why didn't Quillin protest? At all? In the slightest? As in, not even MINUTES afterward, nor the post fight interview?

    Get a clue dude.
     
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  10. GloriaAblaze

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    You don't need to be nostradamus to see that Quillin was saved from a brutal KO.
     
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  11. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    T'is 100% true, which is why I'm not complaining. The ref saw fit to end it, staring right at Quillin. I'd rather have seen the fight go on, but it is what it is.
     
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  12. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was a panicked disgraceful stoppage, like i said you can say he was done til the cows come home to justify it. It doesn't though, so why was N'dam given 5 chances to get up against Quillin? Fight should have been called.

    The ref didnt even say walk towards me count absolutely nothing taht guy should be barred from future championhip fights
     
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  13. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How many times have we seen boxers come back and come back strong from being hurt way worse then the damage Quillin took and if you haven't then that explains it.

    Yea he could have been KOed, but he might have survived the round, he might have got his feet back he might have CAUGHT Jacobs who the F knows, we never will now

    You can't take away the guys opportunity that early period i dont care what Quillin was saying go ref or watch the amateurs or another sport hten
     
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  14. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm just jk guys. Of course it was a good stoppage c'mon you couldnt think i was serious right? I mean he was almost out.

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  15. Rumsfeld

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    You're entitled to your opinion. I think you're nuts, but what do I know?

    I thought Quillin looked seriously hurt, and while I can understand the sadistic side of boxing fans wanting to see vicious KO's, I think the referee made the best call he could under the circumstances. Does that mean I'm correct in supporting the ref's decision? No. But in a sport that can result in serious harm and even death in extreme cases, one must remember that it is the referee's job to protect the fighters.

    It seems the majority in the poll here think it was a good stoppage. Hardly unanimous, but 2:1 ration is rather telling.

    You'd have a much stronger case if, at any point, Quillin protested the ref's decision or objected to the stoppage in any way, shape, or form. He did no such thing, and was extremely gracious in defeat (as was Jacobs in victory).

    It's not as if this was a long competitive fight, or a fight Quillin had been winning handily before getting caught with a haymaker. No one will know what might have happened had the ref allowed the match to continue, and as you say - anything could have happened. Had the ref stopped the fight in Pac-JMM 1, we may have missed out on one of boxing's greatest rivalries of this past generation.

    But in this case, despite the fact anything could have happened, I'm for one glad we never found out, because I believe there is a strong likelihood it could have ended even worse for Quillin, and then we'd hear a chorus of people criticizing the ref for not saving Peter.

    I think the ref knew better than any of us, even with HD resolution, whether or not Quillin was in a proper state to continue. I think he made the right decision, and Quillin's response to the entire ordeal seems to strongly support that, in conjunction with what appears to be a majority viewpoint siding with the ref's decision.

    I maintain that it was a good stoppage in my estimation.

    :smoke
     
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