To everyone who thought it was a good stoppage

wylan911 · Dec 5, 2015

There's no standing 8 count allowed in Championship fights today. I just saw the replay, the ref could have at least motioned for Quillen to come to him though before stopping it. So a tad early to me. He probably would have been gone with another punch anyway, but...

GloriaAblaze · Dec 5, 2015

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You're entitled to your opinion. I think you're nuts, but what do I know?

I thought Quillin looked seriously hurt, and while I can understand the sadistic side of boxing fans wanting to see vicious KO's, I think the referee made the best call he could under the circumstances. Does that mean I'm correct in supporting the ref's decision? No. But in a sport that can result in serious harm and even death in extreme cases, one must remember that it is the referee's job to protect the fighters.

It seems the majority in the poll here think it was a good stoppage. Hardly unanimous, but 2:1 ration is rather telling.

You'd have a much stronger case if, at any point, Quillin protested the ref's decision or objected to the stoppage in any way, shape, or form. He did no such thing, and was extremely gracious in defeat (as was Jacobs in victory).

It's not as if this was a long competitive fight, or a fight Quillin had been winning handily before getting caught with a haymaker. No one will know what might have happened had the ref allowed the match to continue, and as you say - anything could have happened. Had the ref stopped the fight in Pac-JMM 1, we may have missed out on one of boxing's greatest rivalries of this past generation.

But in this case, despite the fact anything could have happened, I'm for one glad we never found out, because I believe there is a strong likelihood it could have ended even worse for Quillin, and then we'd hear a chorus of people criticizing the ref for not saving Peter.

I think the ref knew better than any of us, even with HD resolution, whether or not Quillin was in a proper state to continue. I think he made the right decision, and Quillin's response to the entire ordeal seems to strongly support that, in conjunction with what appears to be a majority viewpoint siding with the ref's decision.

I maintain that it was a good stoppage in my estimation.

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The only outcome I see happening next is Jacobs ramming him with a loaded straight right and knocking him out, cold.

Quillin didn't look like in a position where could defend himself any longer.

Kovalev, Sillakh for reference.

aj415 · Dec 5, 2015

Rumsfeld said: ↑

You're entitled to your opinion. I think you're nuts, but what do I know?

I thought Quillin looked seriously hurt, and while I can understand the sadistic side of boxing fans wanting to see vicious KO's, I think the referee made the best call he could under the circumstances. Does that mean I'm correct in supporting the ref's decision? No. But in a sport that can result in serious harm and even death in extreme cases, one must remember that it is the referee's job to protect the fighters.

It seems the majority in the poll here think it was a good stoppage. Hardly unanimous, but 2:1 ration is rather telling.

You'd have a much stronger case if, at any point, Quillin protested the ref's decision or objected to the stoppage in any way, shape, or form. He did no such thing, and was extremely gracious in defeat (as was Jacobs in victory).

It's not as if this was a long competitive fight, or a fight Quillin had been winning handily before getting caught with a haymaker. No one will know what might have happened had the ref allowed the match to continue, and as you say - anything could have happened. Had the ref stopped the fight in Pac-JMM 1, we may have missed out on one of boxing's greatest rivalries of this past generation.

But in this case, despite the fact anything could have happened, I'm for one glad we never found out, because I believe there is a strong likelihood it could have ended even worse for Quillin, and then we'd hear a chorus of people criticizing the ref for not saving Peter.

I think the ref knew better than any of us, even with HD resolution, whether or not Quillin was in a proper state to continue. I think he made the right decision, and Quillin's response to the entire ordeal seems to strongly support that, in conjunction with what appears to be a majority viewpoint siding with the ref's decision.

I maintain that it was a good stoppage in my estimation.

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There was no Knockdown or holding when the ref stopped the action. The ref hesitates realises in that moment " o sh*t I messed up and allowed Quillin to recover", and might have people criticism him for trying to give him a standing 8 count... You can't tell me he stopped it to deliver a standing count, its not allowed in championship bouts. THe ref acted like he forgot that. So when he looks back and sees Quillin was still wobbly and hurt he impulsively immediately tries to alleviate his nerves and fix his mistake with another one by calling the fight.

That ref is just very lucky that Quillin wasn't more ****ed after to have people now taking his side. As to why thats debateable, he may never have had ambitions to be a great champion, juts wanted to earn a nice payday here and there for his family. Or he may not have liked what he saw from Jacobs, or may have been concussed. But as i already evaluated the guy does not like getting hit based off his past performances.

But by in all deserving respect that was a **** stoppage and a **** ref.

punisher · Dec 5, 2015

Yeah. I was hoping for a longer more competitive fight. But, the dude was about to get laid out. He should've tied Jacobs up or just took a knee. Maybe he just wasn't lucid enough to do either. And the ref obviously recognized that.

Chutz · Dec 5, 2015

The guy didn't know where he was, on jelly legs. If the ref hadn't stopped it he would have been badly hurt. Smart stoppage from the ref

YearZero · Dec 5, 2015

Chutz said: ↑

The guy didn't know where he was, on jelly legs. If the ref hadn't stopped it he would have been badly hurt. Smart stoppage from the ref
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This badly hurt stuff is going overboard. But I see it repeated all the damn time.
It usually takes a LOT for someone to get badly hurt in a ring and even then it's an exceedingly rare occurrence. Let them fight FFS.

Chutz · Dec 6, 2015

YearZero said: ↑

This badly hurt stuff is going overboard. But I see it repeated all the damn time.
It usually takes a LOT for someone to get badly hurt in a ring and even then it's an exceedingly rare occurrence. Let them fight FFS.
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He was done though. Swaying about on his feet. One more punch and he was out. I don't need to see a man unconscious to know he lost a boxing match.
If that's your thing then fair enough

Gneus7 · Dec 6, 2015

YearZero said: ↑

This badly hurt stuff is going overboard. But I see it repeated all the damn time.
It usually takes a LOT for someone to get badly hurt in a ring and even then it's an exceedingly rare occurrence.
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It can and does happen though plus some damage is done even when guys don't end up with life threatening injuries.

YearZero said: ↑

Let them fight FFS.
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They usually do let them fight. What they don't like to let is somebody take unnecessary punishment because they are unable to defend themselves.

southpaw1974 · Dec 6, 2015

Quillin should have taken a knee. By not taking a knee he put himself in a position to lose the fight on a TKO as he did because the ref did not have the luxury of utilizing a standing eight count which would have been very appropriate under the circumstance. With no standing eight count and a fighter with too much pride to take a knee, we get a stoppage loss. I'm sure they will be rematching next year.

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