To me Usyk is the best fighter p4p

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  1. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Better footwork, movement, and use of angles than Loma or Crawford? He is superb in those categories espeically for a CW but imo he doesnt touch those two.
     
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  2. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I personally have Loma at #1, Crawford at #2, GGG at #3, Inouye at #4, Spence at #5, and Usyk or M Garcia at #6. But you're a knowledgeable and respected poster and I obviously respect your decision, and a lot of other highly knowledgeable and respected posters have him lingering danger close to 1 if not 1 so it's not a crazy concept. Just not how I take my coffee.
     
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  3. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk s getting a lot of play and hype over this last win -- and he deserves it, it was a great win, but before that win I dont think I ever saw him on a single posters top3-5 let alone at #1. One fight before and many were questioning his status and saying he was overrated. 1 brilliant win against a guy outside the P4P top 10 and probably even top 20 shouldnt catapult him past t he guys that have been consistently doing their thing fight to fight and established top5 P4P'ers.
     
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  4. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Bellew for me has no bearing on Usyk's standing in the p4p rankings, and he 100% beats Bellew with ease
     
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  5. Inside pass

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    Fair assessment though I have him about 5-6 p4p.

    Does Leo Santa Cruz get underrated?
    Dosnt get much credit on p4p lists.
     
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  6. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don’t matter if you don’t rate him except, for Lebedev, Bellew is the only guy left for Usyk to beat at CW world level. I don’t like Bellew either but he at least Jeff Horn level so if he beats Bellew I got him 1a and Crawford 1b.
     
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  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    There is no Pacquiao or RJJ right now. Nobody currently is lining up ATGs and p4p guys right now.

    Crawford hasnt beaten anybody top 50 p4p let alone top 10. And Loma hasnt beaten anybody top 10 p4p either.
     
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  8. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Loma beat Rigondeaux who was high p4p, Russell is a talent and so is Walters amd linares is a huge talent.
     
    pistal47, Aug 22, 2018
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  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Rigo was p4p according to lifetime achievement magazine called the Ring. Also was p4p at 122 not 130 and was 37.

    I dont rate that win.

    Linares and Russell Jr. Are excellent wins. But a far cry from Toney, Hopkins, Barrera, Marquez, Morales.

    My point is that currently there is nobody like a RJJ or a Pacquiao that is giving boxing a kick in the ass.

    Usyk just happens to be the guy with the most talent and momentum now.
     
    tinman, Aug 22, 2018
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  10. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Personally i dont have him at number 1 but hes high up on my list and can understand why hes number 1 in another persons opinion.
     
    Ukansodoff, Aug 22, 2018
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  11. TrustTheUniverse

    TrustTheUniverse I am feel. I am very feel banned Full Member

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    Amazing fighter. So many butthurt people on this forum! They are gonna be butthurt for a long time haha.
     
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  12. Scissors

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    Lomachenko.

    If they were same size and weight there’s definitely only one winner.
     
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  13. Caper

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    Top 7 P4p for me however skill wise he’s top 3
     
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  14. ElCyclon

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    Definitely in my top 10 favorite fighters to watch but top 1 PFP? NO!
     
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  15. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jesus, fighters dont scale up. They never do yet this myth of scaling up persists.
     
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