To prove your the best of an era, you had to fight them all

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Like last night showing, and it's literally always been like this in any martial arts, it's styles that makes fight, and way more so in Boxing.

    In order a one to claim he is the best of this era(and then to be ranked among great of the sport), he needs to clean the division and beat the best.

    And there is not a single one Boxer currently that is even close to do that.

    How the f**** with so many great fighters, and all of them different in terms of style to each other, we end up with that s**** ???
    All the respect to Ngannou, but he had no business fighting Fury and AJ. And he won that Fury fight for Christ sake.

    Now obviously for one or another reason you can't fight them all, but you should clean at the very least 50%+ of the division.
    And there isn't a single name that has done that.

    AJ is obviously the closest, as he already fought Whyte, Povetkin, Parker, Ruiz, Pulev, Klitschko and Usyk.

    Fury had Whyte, Klitschko and Wilder and Chisora.

    Usyk had only AJ, Dubois and Chisora.


    But anyone to claim they are the best they have to fought at least a good amount of this guys:
    Hrgovic, Ruiz, Zhang, Joyce, Dubois, Sanchez, Anderson, Wilder, Kabayel, and even guys like Bakole.

    You cannot just fought 2 or 3 of them and claim you are the best. The sports doesn't work like that.

    Usyk doesn't have the time, but i hope AJ at the very least gets the fights with 4+ guys on this list.
    He had the time to do it, and i hope Hrgovic is next.
     
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  2. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well its Fury's fault for giving value to Ngannou by losing his cherry pick gone wrong when he ducked Usyk.

    Aj destroyed Fury's tough fights and set himself up for a huge undisputed fight with Fury if Fury can beat Usyk.
    Otherwise he will fight a guy like hrgovic or parker for a belt that gets taken from Usyk.
     
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  3. Kev2k83

    Kev2k83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Totally agree,

    Except i think Parker deserves the hrgovic fight.

    But if fury beats usyk and Joshua who else would you have him fight as that would be three undefeated two of them long reigning champions who were all respective number ones if you see usyk as number one.

    Maybe a swan song against his mate?

    Same for usyk who id like to see fight wilder maybe Zhang , Joyce or Parker if he wins.

    Joshua fury(if he doesn't retire win or lose), wilder, Ruiz(if he can get his fat arse in shape) as it's one one and it would be nice to see a trilogy.

    I think kabayel is in the who needs him club and has been for a long time.

    Love you see kabayel get more opportunities incredibly underrated fighter.
     
  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It's also a Fury fault for a lot of the fights not happen, because he is the ultimate time waster, just like Wilder, and this labeling comes from AJ himself.
    He waste everyone time with his b.c. and literally took a good 1+ years of AJ career, and a good 2+ years of Usyk career, as well as good year and a half of last years of Klitschko career.

    And people still finds way to excuse this fraud.

    And his fans were claiming he is the GOAT .... How the f**** you can claim he is even the best of this era, when he hasn't fought 90%+ of the contenders ....

    By that statement Ngannou should be the best ever, as he fight Fury and beats him in everyone eyes. He didn't need to fight anyone else by that logic ...
     
  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You know i'm labeled as Fury hater, as i'm speaking facts.

    But to my eyes if Fury beats Usyk, and then beat AJ, he is the best of this era and can claim ATG status. But, here where the problem with Fury comes. He lost to Ngannou clearly. There was a clear intentional elbow that should have been called, and take 1-2 point deductiong. There was another KD for Ngannou in the 7th round, that wasn't counted, and that was clean as a whistle. And Ngannou was robbed on the scorecard, and everyone knows it.
    He is also a dirty cheater, and should have been DQ against Cunningham.

    If he beats Usyk fair and square, without corruption, and then beat AJ(he won't be able to use his star power in that fight, so that fight will be fair), then all the props for him, he is the best.

    But still he waste everyone time, and waste a good amount of career time of AJ, Usyk, Klitschko, and himself as well(but that's his own problem).

    AJ road is more like to prove he is the best of this era with a very solid resume, nothing else.

    Usyk has just too few fights in the HW to claim anything outside of the obvious. Which i will state when he beats Fury on May 18th.
     
  6. Kev2k83

    Kev2k83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't believe anyone who shows impartiality is a hater bud.

    We all have our own opinions it's all good fun.

    Who would you like to see them fight?