To Put PBFs resume in perspective...FLASHBACK TO 12/05

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  1. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    FLASHBACK to 2 years ago- RING RANKINGS:

    WELTER CHAMPION- Zab Judah (FMJ UD 12)

    L. WELTER CHAMPION- Ricky Hatton (FMJ TKO10)

    LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION- Diego Corrales (FMJ TKO10)



    ...puts it in perspective a tad bit
     
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  2. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wheres Mosley ? Margarito ? Cotto ?
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Not Ring champs at that time. :conf
     
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  4. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Contenders to the crowns of Judah and Hatton.
     
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  5. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But there his top 3 contenders at the moment so **** 2005.
     
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  6. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I see you fail at keeping things in context.


    If a fighter beat three RING champs right now how would you feel about him?
    What if Pavlik right beat Calzaghe and Hopkins....would that not matter b/c he hasnt fought Diaconou, Johnson and Dawson?
     
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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I guess it depends on how highly you value Ring rankings.
     
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  8. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah, nevermind. Its so common to see I guess it doesnt matter.
     
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  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well Hatton and Judah at the very least were the "man who beat the man".....
     
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  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Which is, to my understanding, how TR typically operates. Personally, I think the Ric Flair system is unreliable in boxing. :yep
     
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  11. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, you gotta put some value in unification right? Otherwise, if Ring, Unification, AND random ABC belts mean nothing, well.....how do we know who's good?
     
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Sure. I'm just wary of funneling all the weight of a division onto the shoulders of one guy at a time, except in very clear cases where the #1 and #2 are head and shoulders above #3 and below...like SMW last year.
     
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  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fair enough. Case by case basis.

    I don't know for sure that Judah, despite holding all 3 titles at WW was ever the best WW.

    Hatton perhaps may have been the 3rd best JWW even though he beat the champion who unified.

    It is all getting complicated. But the problem isn't with putting the weight on one fighter because he beat "the man". The problem is getting him to fight worthy challengers thereafter to continue to prove he should hold such status.
     
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  14. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    alright, lets not put any fighters win into context.

    If Hopkins beats Calzaghe, it doesnt matter. Calzaghe is a blown up light heavy and isnt great at light heavyweight....he doesnt even have a win at that weight! Any fighter can beat 3 ring champions- at his weight, the weight above and the weight under.
     
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  15. rendog67

    rendog67 The firestarter Full Member

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    never thought of it that way, good spot
     
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