To say Haye beats Wlad based on this...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ChrisPontius, Jul 12, 2008.


  1. puca

    puca Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye is abig fraud guys he is not half as good as people as saying.Out of the curent crop of young h.weights solis ,povotkin and arrello all beat him.Klit would easily out point him
     
  2. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Wlad was stopped from no stamina not from his chin in the Purrity fight.

    Haye fights a nobody at HW and can starch the main man at HW?
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I don't rate Haye that highly. I just think that anybody with a good punch could stop Wladimir Klitschko. I don't rate him at all. He's a negative fighter, even when his opponent is as limited as Thompson. Disgraceful.
     
  4. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Haye's chin was vulnerable to cruiserweights. Klitschko will put him in a coma. That'll shut him up for a while.
     
  5. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Tony was trying to survive not trying to win.
     
  6. Armo_Ruski

    Armo_Ruski best of da best Full Member

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    im gettin so tired of people saying things like "haye certainly has the power to stop wlad???" how in the world do u know to say certainly???
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    But he was a stationary target, and even though he had his hands up all of the time, the heavyweight champion of the world still cannot pressure him? It wasn't that Wladimir failed to starch his opponent, it's that he wasn't even trying to win impressively.

    Regardless, my mind is made up. Wladimir Klitschko is an accident waiting to happen, and the Heavyweight division is sad at the moment.
     
  8. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I have to see, based on tonight, Wlad was bothered by Thompson's constant pressure.... well, for the first 4 rounds untill the right hands got to him. At that point, Wlad got into a rythem and it was all over..... but Povetkin throws 70 punches a round for 12 rounds, and in nice combinations too. The big question will be his chin. If he chins is as good as Thompsons, he can give Wlad a lot of trouble. I'd still favor Wlad however.
     
  9. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Hey cobra.... check your PM's.
     
  10. Rui

    Rui Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haye better technically than Thompson? Come on. Haye can't even keep both hands up. He might be able to throw shots with more authority and possess superior speed and reflexes than Thompson, but as far as technical skill, Haye is a long way from being as good as Thompson.
     
  11. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haye is alot better than Thompson, other than having a chin, he is better than Thompson in every other area.
     
  12. Rui

    Rui Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haye is more talented and athletically superior to Thompson, but Thompson is clearly better technically. He was blocking a lot of Klitschko's bombs for the first portion of the fight... the same type of punches that Haye would be eating due to his low guard.
     
  13. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Good analysis. Thompson doesn't have much beyond a decent chin, Haye has everything but. That might be enough to get him by at CW, but HW's a whole different ballgame.
     
  14. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Povetkin is small enough to where he can get under that right hand. And I'm positive that he can work inside when Waldo tries to grab. If Waldo can't hurt Povetkin he is in for another loss. Povetkin will not be easily discouraged.

    Sammy was just green in that fight. Whenever Waldo grabbed Sammy pushed off instead of getting real low or attacking Waldo's body. I'm fairly certain Sammy learned alot from that loss. If he uses his jab in the rematch and stays just as active I think he gets Waldo out of there in 6.

    Either way for these guys to win there needs to be a competent ref who won't stand for the jab and grab bull****. It's unacceptable. Before Manny came along Waldo was doing just fine as a standup fighter. He had inside game. It just got discarded when Manny came into the picture. There is no reason why Waldo shouldn't be working inside. He has done so in the past. It is clearly an exploit in size and it is illegal.
     
  15. antcull

    antcull Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haye is miles ahead of Thompson.

    Klitschko is gonna get brutally KTFO against Haye, he won't know what to do with the Hayemakers bombs coming his way.

    Hayes chin was to do with draining himself to make cruiser, he'll be a different beast at heavyweight.

    WAR HAYE! :bbb :bbb :ko :bbb :bbb