To the fans/haters: How much does Manny have to give you?

lol, after Cotto huh?? You mean when he threw over a thousand punches against Clottey and took him out of the fight purely by offensive activity?? Matter of fact, that Pac would've been able to that to Floyd when he shelled up, instead he backed off because he was not that Pac anymore. And don't say it's because of Floyd's countering, Clottey busted Pac up with the few counters he landed...it didn't stop Pedquiao in the slightest.

 

You know something, I totally forgot about Bradley. Both fights were at the full 147 right? Those are excellent wins for Manny actually, although I do think Bradley was/is a much more accomplished fighter at JWW, where he campaigned for the majority of his career.

The thing that really makes Manny such an ATG for me is he could've retired back in 06-07 and he would've been a first ballot hall of famer. What he's done since than has just added to his terrific legacy.

 

Come on man, stop with the nonsense. A natural 126 pounder fighting at 147+? When he fought at 122 his avg fight night weight was 131. Higher than Barrera or Morales at the same weight and higher than Barrera was ever recorded coming in for a fight at 126. When he fought at 130 his average fight night weight was 141. Higher than Floyd's highest ever fight night weight at fight contested at 130 or 135. In Pac's only fight at 135 he came in at 147, higher than Floyd ever came in for a fight contested at 140.

I don't dislike Manny or like Floyd, you just have to be more realistic.

 

I for one would like him to be a man and admit there was no injury and to give Floyd the credit he deserves. Manny did this to himself. Its laughable people are still trying to defend his lame antics and still give him "moral" victories. I would also like to see him admit he was on PED's and apologize to his wife and to real people of the christian religion that he is indeed a hypocrite. This is all I ask from him. As far as boxing, he's done. Can care less what sacrificial brawler/lamb at a bull**** weight limit that won't sell he fights next.

 

nothing wrong with manny....i went to the hatton and cotto fights....always enjoyed his fights....but his team and his fans soured me on him big time for years....and he didnt help his cause after the floyd fight either by making more excuses...

 

Alright man. I try to be reasonable but all you want to do is make excuses. If you think a guy coming in at 144 for a fight at 130 is still a natural 126 pounder then more power to ya.

 

:|:|:| 118-110. OK in his era not great like Floyd. For FIVE years I've said Excusequiao is overrated. Floyd would make him look ordinary. FACT!

 

What? Terrible example. Fight matrix has data on the average height for all divisions for top 50 ranked fighters and the average weight for a top 50 ranked heavyweight each year. It took Holy 16 years and over 30 fights at heavyweight to step in the ring within 5 lbs of the average top 50 heavyweight. Pac fought at 147 in his first ever fight at Lightweight and 140 in his first fight at 130, perfectly average for a lightweight or junior lightweight. Floyd never fought above 141 at either weight. How come when Floyd moved up to lightweight he fought at 138?

 

Because all you scrubs said he'd beat Money and he undeniably got his ass whooped and the PacFan is still living in his imaginary world. Manny has goy plenty left to do:

a. JMM restitution for getting KTFO'd ( not a mere decision or a couple KD's)
b. Fight Money & win ! (of course this isn't possible)
c. Fire the lil Roach and get a trainer who knows how to create a real strategy and not rely on Manny's athleticism and punching power.
d. Find a trainer who a good corner man who understands the opponents skill-set.(Freddie was lousy at this and Manny got touched by the check left all night long. This is the 1st thing you prepare when fighting Money and Manny never saw it coming 1x)

 

It's obvious the plan was for God to make Floyd stay there so Manny can throw many punches. God didn't deliver Floyd to Manny and their plan went out of the window. Manny needs to change religions again.

 

Boxing saved his life

I expect it to take it as well

:blood

 

Who dosent like manny? Dosent mean we have to love him like you pactrolls do. He is just a boxer, nothing more. Some of you just need to check your man card because you may have more of a interest in manny then just a fan.

"What do i have to do to make you like my hero" lol what a girl!

We can criticize some one when they need to be, you guys refuse to criticize pac. I for one was upset when floyd fought ghost because it was a pointless fight. Yet duck master (who folded on his ban bet) praises chris and hyped up that pathetic fight.