To the Margarito obsessives claiming that Clottey wasn't injured

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by aj415, Aug 19, 2008.


  1. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe, but still, I don't want to hear any excuses if your scenario of Doomsday happens and Clottey wins.
     
  2. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    No, aj, the point is Clottey kept using that injured hand in favor of his allegedly good right hand by a vast margin in every round. He was throwing with his "injured" left hand with full power in the late rounds, again throwing triple left hooks to the body and the head off of left jabs. It was left, left, left, left, left, right, left, left, right, left, left, left, left... The truth is right there on the table for everyone to see. The "injury" was a complete and total non factor, it didn't effect his ability to throw. Clottey has been caught lying - he said he couldn't use it - that's ****ing bull****. Also, when Clottey stopped throwing early in the fight he did so with both hands. He wasn't throwing at all. He was pouting like a child because Margarito was frustrating him, he went back to his corner at that point with the lies about his "injury."
     
  3. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    See now that is silly. So you think he is such a primadonna that hes going to act for the viewers at home??

    I'm not going to pretend I know how hurt he was, you shouldn't either. We both saw that his punch rate dropped off immensley beginning in round 5. And we consistently saw him after that motion and complain about his hand. They were asking if he wanted to stop the fight. If he is such a primadonna like your making him out to be don't you think he would just quit?????????

    Margarito was hurt too, but he determined his injury's manageable enough to fight with to the point he felt he could still perform well enough to get a victory.
     
  4. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    YES, you are goddamn right. Primadonna indeed. Clottey pretended like Judah hit him right on the cup and looked at the ref like he was going to tear up and started limping. Clottey is an actor and a whiner. When HBO showed the replay, the shot that Clottey pretended had hit him in the cup landed on his leg. He's a bull**** artist, crybaby, and repeat offender. Period.
     
  5. BigReg

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    Clottey was using that left, but he was slapping with it. Whenever his hands start bothering him, he slaps with it. I highly doubt he was faking the injury. He may have exaggerated how hurt it was, but it was definately hurt. All this debate should end soon anyway. It's looking more and more likely that these two will fight again in Nov.
     
  6. san rafael

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    Yeah, he was slapping with it - at first. But then he forgot about winning the Oscar and started throwing with full power again. Check it out. I've watched this fight about 15 times, literally.
     
  7. BigReg

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    You may be right, but that doesn't mean he was faking it. Sometimes you have to bare down and fight through the pain. Gatti often threw bombs with a broken hand. Now I'm not going to sit here and say Clottey only lost because his hand was hurt. It's boxing, you have to be able to fight through that type of stuff. However, I'm also not going to sit here and say he faked that injury. It just doesn't make sense to me.
     
  8. El Borracho

    El Borracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Margarito beats him again in the rematch
     
  9. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    It doesn't make sense to me either. But all the evidence is there, is it not? Floyd Mayweather lied about which shoulder he injured in Castillo I. First it was the left shoulder and then it was the right shoulder. First he "tore his rotator cuff" and then it was later reported that he only strained his rotator cuff. Fighters lie and exaggerate injury's all the time to save face. Just because a fighter is lying or exaggerating during the course of a fight itself doesn't make it any different. At the time that Clottey first started complaining he had clearly had a mental crackup and stopped punching with both hands - he wasn't punching at all. Clottey has a history of mental issues inside the ring. He's unstable, and where there's smoke there's fire. The guy is full of **** IMO. And like I said - there is a ton of supporting evidence.
     
  10. Scar

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    So you're saying Clottey was doing great early and all of a sudden stopped throwing left hands when he had countless openings because he got discouraged? :patsch
     
  11. BigReg

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    Check my post again and stop being a clown. I forgot to add the word not. I meant to say, I'm not going to sit here and say he lost because of the injury. It was a simple typo.
     
  12. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the opinion that he is a primadonna is an immense misconception honestly. Also you describe his mentality like he's Zab Judah. He wouldn't be able to win with his talent if he had such an unstable mentality, because he's not world-class in any one category, he has solid defense, decent boxing skills, and deceptive speed, but this would not get him over the hump if he was another Judah / Tyson type as a person.
    If the guy was as heartless as you believe him to be he would have quit in the fight.



    My assessment of him is that he is an unusually intelligent fighter and he makes notable in fight adjustments better then most fighters I've ever seen. His accuracy and punch selection is excellent as well. My instinct is that these criticisms are misconceptions. I was disappointed that the Judah fight was stopped, because it was heading to a TKO and Clottey was beginning to systematically destroy him ala Margo-Cotto which would have put some of these knocks on him to rest, but it didn't happen that way. He'll have to prove himself in his upcoming fights.


    Your view of him does seem to be the opinion of many, but I disagree wholeheartedly. I already pointed out that he never wavered about his injury. No one as of yet has been able to provide a source where Clottey actually says his hand was only bruised. Im 98% sure it was a rumor started up when people found out his hand wasn't broken like he thought. The consistent story I've found through interviews (including on ESB's main page) was that he thought it was broken, but found out it was a stress fracture. But nothing I say will have much impact.

    I'm just going to let his next fight(s) speak for themselves.
     
  13. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Clottey is a very talented fighter. He's extremely durable, explosive, and has excellent timing. However, he's got some maturity problems. No, he isn't at the point of being a quitter - that's an exaggeration and a bit of melodrama on your part, but Clottey does like to cry. Alot.
     
  14. BigReg

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    If you read the whole post, it would be clear what I meant to say and obvious that I made a typo. The post makes no sense with the typo. Again, you're too eager to respond with childesh responses consisting of a bunch of emoticons, blatant dick riding of Mexican fighters, as well as a constant hatred towards Mayweather. You're gimmick is getting played out.
     
  15. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hmm.. I suspected as much. Margarito is the Mexican Hulk isn't he. But don't know the real Clottey. Primadonna boxer by day and by night:


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