To the people who say DLH/Whitaker was a robbery..

Floyd got credit for punches that landed on nothing but gloves. Also, I have NEVER called that fight a robbery. I said that it was a close fight. I had Oscar winning as did the people who I watched the fight with, except one who had it a draw. However I realized that it was close enough to be scored either way and I have never called it a robbery. Oscar did GREAT body work which he was never credited for.

Boxing is scored by rounds. I have done threads in the past where I broke down my scoring on the Whitaker fight. I broke down each round and explained my scoring for each round. That is how boxing is supposed to be scored. The reason that I pointed out Oscar's huge advantage in power punches is because that told the tale of that fight. Whitaker himself didn't do enough good offensive work to win that fight. Great defense will only take you so far.

 

Punchstats aren't the most accurate things in the world. I agree there. However Oscar CLEARLY outlanded Whitaker by a wide margin in power punches. In reality, Oscar simply won more rounds. I honestly don't see how someone can find 7 rounds to give to Whitaker. Also... even if they do find 7 rounds that they think he could have won... that isn't a robbery when a fight is that close.

 

Yeah, and Oscar got credit for punches that landed on nothing but air against Pete.

Well you were saying that DLH clearly won the Whitaker fight because of the huge disparity in power connects, so why not say Floyd did likewise against DLH? You can't have it both ways - unless you abandon punchstats as a reason for who won either fight.

Got no prob with someone that thinks DLH won the Whitaker fight, a case can definitely be made for that. But the effectiveness of both their blows was not disparate in the final tally to make one a clear victor over the other. Whitaker landed a bit more, DLH's punches carried a bit more weight, but overall their offensive work was very close. Anyone that says otherwise is crediting Oscar for **** that just didn't land clean and effectively.

Larry Merchant and Roy Jones themselves were ringside and were calling bull**** on punch stats in that fight, and everyone else should have been too, because, as Roy said "you don't land that kinda punches on Pernell Whitaker".

 

Not going to keep arguing over the same points. As I said... I didn't feel that Oscar won that fight just because of the punchstats. I felt that he clearly won the fight because of the fact that he won more rounds.

 

Agreed on all points. yep

 

Tito-DLH was a robbery IMO.

DLH avoided exchanging with Tito and looked disgraceful doing so but truth is he is landing punches. He clearly won at least 8 rounds IMO and several of the remaining 4 can be very well be even rounds.

 

Put it this way, without going and rewatching the fight, can you remember any of Whitaker's punches? -any at all? The kd doesn't count as he hit Hoya with the side of his arm as Hoya was changing stances. It was more of a shove when someone is off balance. After that I don't remember anything offensive Whitaker did of merit, defence yes but nothing offensive. I do remember the shots Hoya landed however including a huge left hook against the ropes that would have knocked out any lesser fighter than Whitaker.

 

I've watched the fight plenty of times and can remember most of it.

I can't remember Oscar landing anything along the ropes of merit.

He did land some good punches though and Whitaker landed some as well.

Here's the deal, tell me when this huge left hook that Oscar landed along the ropes happened and I'll go into detail on the punches I can remember Whitaker landing. I CAN remember him landing some good shots too, so let's see what you've got.:good

 

u really think he was robbed against Tito. I think he robbed himself by hopping on his bicycle the last 4....But that's just my 2 sense.

 

saw it and yes, it was a robbery.

 

You might want to rewatch the fight because Oscar wasn't on his bicycle for the last 4 rounds.

 

If you know how to score a fight correctly Floyd wins the fight 8 rounds to 4. It wasnt that close. You must have blindfolds on to think Oscar was doing anything of note but getting dominated over the last 4th of the fight. Oscar body work was unremarkable. Most of his punches were shoe shines.

 

People need to go rewatch this fight and really pay attention to which punches landed.

You are right, Whitaker did not do a lot of offense but he consistently landed the clean jab right in DH face.

DH tried a lot of offense but did land very few power punches and his jab was ineffective. His punches my look good but mostly do not land. Actually, Whitaker should have gotten credit for his defense and ring generalship. He kept the fight in the middle of the ring, circled and was not pushed back to the ropes. He controlled the tempo of the fight and he was the CHAMP. Did the challenger did enough to take the title away from the champion and ATG? IMO, no.