To this day, Froch's hometown gift over Dirrell dosen't sit right with me

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  1. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Nope. He's about five times faster and four times more athletic though. Don't get it twisted.
     
  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I scored the fight 7-4-1 to Dirrell. I also had it down that four of the rounds could reasonably go either way, from what I could see. I favored Dirrell in three of those rounds on my card, for doing cleaner (but less) punching and made one even. However, Dirrell and corner knew damn well, he was not going to be in a negative fight against an aggressive champion in HIS BACKYARD and be taking close rounds from the judges.

    He did ****all to assert himself in the close rounds as the clear winner of them. If you give all four of those either-way rounds to Froch, as Dirrell's own corner knew they were likely to do, you have a rational enough Froch victory. Andre ****ed up and his own corner told him he wasn't getting a decision there with that game plan. He has only himself to blame. He lost close in an awkward, ugly, **** fight and that's why he's in the position he's in, while Ward is in the position he's in. One's a champion, one's not.
     
  3. san rafael

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    :deal
     
  4. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Pretty much.

    A very good description of this bout...so much so that I have yet to rewatch it since I saw it LIVE. I thought Dirrell edged the bout by maybe a point, but Froch being at home was always going to come out on top of the close rounds, like you said.
     
  5. Rich108

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    u can say what u want about dirrells heart but he is a good boxer and he outboxed froch on the night
     
  6. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    For starters, Froch essentially got free points on absolutely anything he threw on the inside because Dirrell, for some reason, kept initiating clinches without throwing anything on the way in, threw nothing once he was in the clinch, and didn't fight his way out. That Dirrell kept doing it, over and over again, is a sign of how generous he must be because he was handing over points on a silver platter to Froch. Again and again.

    Fans overlook that kind of thing. Judges don't. They also don't overlook when a fighter fights such a negative fight as Dirrell fought, and that certainly plays a part. They'll almost always give the edge to the guy trying to make the fight if the other guy is doing nothing but playing the spoiler role.

    That's a fight Dirrell could've won, but didn't. If anyone robbed Dirrell that night, it was himself and his corner. I was frustrated as hell watching it because I wanted Dirrell to win. I thought at least someone in his camp might realize the adjustments a visiting fighter has to make. I was wrong. Andre fought like he was the hometown fighter who could afford to cruise because they'd get the close rounds, and it was a grievous tactical error.
     
  7. Post Box

    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    The fight was there for Dirrell's taking, its not your problem he didn't take it, let it go.
     
  8. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fztqCbOUiTY[/ame]

    Will there be anything else required?
     
  9. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    ^^^

    Dirrell clinched.

    Froch hit behind the back of the head, and hit while holding NUMEROUS times.

    Froch was made to look slow and dumb in this fight.

    Watch the full fight and watch his reaction immediately before the score cards were announced, he looked nervous and pensive as though he thought he had blown it DESPITE having the fight in his back yard and hometown judges.

    Then AFTER the fight and in post fight interviews he acts as though he had just schooled Dirrell 120-108.

    It's ironic how he thought he was robbed in Denmark against Kessler :lol:
     
  10. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Dirrell fights so ****ing nervous and jumpy.. Hard to watch someone that physically gifted use all his talents to look like a scared teenage girl.
     
  11. VARG

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    Taking a point away for clinching seems subjective nowadays. Berto, Ward, Hopkins and quite a few others are notorious clinchers and hardly ever lose a point. It depends on the ref...Dirrell should've made the proper adjustment...like develop an inside game. He clearly has none. Or how to circle the ring properly, or how to pivot out of danger. He did none of those and it showed. I personally thought Dirrell won the fight clearly, but he was fighting in such a ridiculous manner he derserved to lose more than Froch deserved to win.
     
  12. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Referre was from Panama ,

    All Judges were not from the UK.

    Its funny how its always a home town decision when not in the states.

    Dirrell had his chances and didnt take them. He clearly did the better work , but his negativity , holding and running cost him. Every time he couldnt get a shot off he was holding, I actually thought the referee was very good with him and should have taken more points.

    In the end I had it 115 - 113 Froch.

    Since then Froch has fought Kessler and AA going 1 - 1 .

    Where as Dirrell has shown he doesnt want to fight.

    Taking of home town decisions look at Kotelnick vs Alexander . A US referee and three US judges.

    Go figure.
     
  13. modestbiggles

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    Dirrell is awful to watch. he has all the tools, but fights like a ******. The fight was close. In 9 out of 10 close fights, the home guy will get the win. Froch was at home and kept the belt. Watcha gonna do? It happens. there is a case for both guys winning. The deducted point was probably the thing that swung it. Dirrell should have won it. He lacked the balls.
     
  14. VARG

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    If you watch the footage, there really wasn't much Dirrell could do seeing as Froch wouldn't move back so their space was pretty much eliminated and seeing as Froch was throwing every dirty textbook punch, why in the **** would you want him to do that freely? Had he just clinched him like a normal boxer would instead of this bearhug of a clinch into the ropes, it might've not have looked so "negative" as people are putting it.
     
  15. vanargian_guard

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    Amen brother. It's mostly Brits and noobs who think every boxer is either Gatti or a *****.