To those who believe Hatton will beat Mayweather

Popshots · Nov 14, 2007

C Money said:

I believe Hatton has a somewhat live shot.

To you're points

147-short timing, weight issues=poor performance the 1st time. THIS time more time, strength/conditioning/nutrition coaching and 1000% focus.

Collazo is a SOUTHPAW! Different approach stylistically and it impacted the fight plan of Hatton. IMO, Bad example which has nothing to do with how this fight unfolds.

Not much chance at 47? Well we know TEAM MAYWEATHER AGREES that's why its the stipulated weight. Had it been to Hatton it'd be in the UK at 40, not Vegas at 47. They agreed because PBF isnt a big WW himself. PBF wants nothing to do with guys like Margarito, Cintron, and Williams Hell, they are already trying to figure out how to avoid Cotto next:rofl

This is about Floyd and Ricky and while the 47 title is on the line, this fight is really about 40, unfinished business. Hatton can come in at whatever he wants and may be under the limit.

Hatton will push Floyd with tenacity, volume, strength, determination combined with decent handspeed, a smothering inside style, and great body work. Mayweather will have to either fight out inside or use movement. It comes down to how well Hatton cuts the ring and negoitiates distance going forward. If Floyd uses the same style he used vs DLH with Hatton?:happy
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Actually its not a bad example. Is Floyd not capable of turning southpaw as Callazo? Is Floyd not a slick boxer like Callazo? Is Floyd not the bigger fighter going into this match up? All signs lean to "yes". Of course it has nothing to do with how this fight unfolds, but its a valid point whether or not you want to face the facts.

As for 147 and lack of conditioning. Why didn't Hatton give Callazo a rematch? Simply because 147 is too much for him. As far as Cintron, Williams etc.. I skipped that because it was totally off topic.

IrnBruMan · Nov 14, 2007

Popshots said:

Actually you didn't blow anything "out of the water". It would be foolish to train for a 140 fighter when you're fighting at 147. Do your realise how foolish your logic is? I was saying he had trouble at 147 against a lesser fighter how is he going to handle PBF at that weight?
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No it wouldn't - if the extra 7lbs slows you down, it would be wise to train for a fight at 147 as you normally train for your fights at your optimum weight - 140lbs.

There are other reasons for why he had trouble vs Collazo.

IrnBruMan · Nov 14, 2007

kirk said:

Hatton said that the extra weight is what slowed him down and that he felt sluggish going down the stretch... he will be coming in lighter for this fight, also... im sure his preperation for mayweather will be leaps and bounds ahead of what it was for collazo...

also im not sure but id be willing to bet that collazo is physically bigger then mayweather though i could be wrong. seems like a big dude to me. and at the end of the day... hatton wins. it may not look pretty, may have some adversity and whatnot but he always pulls it off.
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good post.

I wonder if poppy will understand it or just ignore it :think

planetzion · Nov 14, 2007

Popshots said:

I know Mayweather will win and those who disagree welcome. This is what makes boxing great, agreeing to diagree. I'm just trying to understand your logic of why Hatton will win.

First, this fight is at 147 which is clearly too much weight for Hatton.
Hatton is coming in at 143 according to his guys thats perfect

The last fight he had at 147 many believe he lost of Collazo and he was clearly stunned in that fight and beaten up pretty good.
Team Hatton readily admit making mistakes in this fight namley coming in too heavy they took the fight on too quick notice and bilked up too quick
Hatton was the smaller man in that fight as he is in this fight. 147 is clearly too much weight for Hatton
See 1st response
which is why he went back down to 140 and wouldn't give Collazo a rematch.
I wouldnt give collozo a rematch either whats the point ...fact is he is now facing mayweather who you claim is abogger risk anyway
Collazo gave him trouble and he's not nearly as a hard of a puncher as Mayweather
Really I dont know if thats accurate...
and he's not as slick either.
That I agree with
Personally I found Hatton to be more effective with his aggression a few years back. I think he sort of fell off a little bit,
Tell that to Castillo...brother got ****ed up
possibly due to stepping up in competition.
See above
My botton line is, this fight is at 147 and Hatton had trouble at that weight.
See 1st response
How do you figure he's going to get by Mayweather who fought as high as 154 and still maintained his form? IMO Hatton's aggression would probably have been more effective at 140, but 147 he doesn't have much of a chance.
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I think on the night Hattons agession will be very effective....if you ask me its a coins toss fight I can see how both guys can use thier styles well...I cant see however why sooooo many people here underate Hatton???

Marcus · Nov 14, 2007

Short little vid of Hatton training for Mayweaher Jr.

[url]http://sport.guardian.co.uk/boxing/story/0,,2210619,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=7[/url]

Toopretty · Nov 14, 2007

Hatton is going to try to stay in front of mayweather with his defense...........funny...bounce in front of him and keep up with his lateral movement. Wont work.

Popshots · Nov 15, 2007

kirk said:

Hatton said that the extra weight is what slowed him down and that he felt sluggish going down the stretch... he will be coming in lighter for this fight, also... im sure his preperation for mayweather will be leaps and bounds ahead of what it was for collazo...

also im not sure but id be willing to bet that collazo is physically bigger then mayweather though i could be wrong. seems like a big dude to me. and at the end of the day... hatton wins. it may not look pretty, may have some adversity and whatnot but he always pulls it off.
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Fair enough, Hatton's thinking is similar to PBF/DLH when Floyd didn't weight exactly 154, but allowed himself to be lighter by a few pounds. I can see your logic.

Popshots · Nov 15, 2007

muttley said:

No it wouldn't - if the extra 7lbs slows you down, it would be wise to train for a fight at 147 as you normally train for your fights at your optimum weight - 140lbs.

There are other reasons for why he had trouble vs Collazo.
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I see gotcha. Train as a 140 figher against a 147 fighter and expect the same results as if you're fighing a 140 lb fighter:good

Popshots · Nov 15, 2007

muttley said:

good post.

I wonder if poppy will understand it or just ignore it :think
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Why would I ignore it. I created this post. I clearly stated that I like to agree to disagree. Read next time before you give me emotionally charged responses. If you read my thread I already told you I don't care who you choose I just want to understand the logic of why you choose Hatton for instance when he apparently didn't have success at 147 in his first go around against a lesser figher. I want to be proven wrong so give me your best shot.

Popshots · Nov 15, 2007

planetzion said:

I think on the night Hattons agession will be very effective....if you ask me its a coins toss fight I can see how both guys can use thier styles well...I cant see however why sooooo many people here underate Hatton???
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I know reasons why many underrate him, but I personally don't underrate him. I just don't see him being as successful at 147. I also believe that his aggressive style was more affect as far as pulling out clear decisive victories. Perhaps its because he stepping up in competition that it doesn't appear to be that way consistantly.

igotJUIC3 · Nov 15, 2007

We may underrate Hatton but Floyd wont.....Hatton had better be ready and done what he can because i think people are starting to underestimate how good Floyd really is in the ring Mentally and Physically.

C Money · Nov 15, 2007

Popshots said:

Actually its not a bad example. Is Floyd not capable of turning southpaw as Callazo? Is Floyd not a slick boxer like Callazo? Is Floyd not the bigger fighter going into this match up? All signs lean to "yes". Of course it has nothing to do with how this fight unfolds, but its a valid point whether or not you want to face the facts.

As for 147 and lack of conditioning. Why didn't Hatton give Callazo a rematch? Simply because 147 is too much for him. As far as Cintron, Williams etc.. I skipped that because it was totally off topic.
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Its a lousy example.:yep Floyd isnt a southpaw and doesnt routinely switch stance. So suddenly for this fight only, Floyd will turn southpaw? Do you know what facts are?? It's a valid "assumption" based on you're viewpoint but Collazo and Floyd are two different fighters stylistically.

147? this fight should have happened at 40 and PBF is slightly taller than Hatton does that mean bigger? :nono Floyd chose 47 thinking that Hatton's struggle with Collazo was partially based on the weight. Hatton had a shorter training time and admittedly didnt have his best camp or performance. That isnt the case this time around and team Hatton addressed that specifically over a proper time period for the upcoming fight.

Funny that you should criticize Hatton with the names Cintron and Williams when it is 99.99% of PBF fans who are LINING UP to claim that Floyd doesnt need the Winner of that fight?:rofl Seriously? This is the type twisted Mayweather Fan bull**** that stinks beyond what is reasonably tolerable:good

Why dont you save you're "off topic" specualtion for the WINNER OF PBF VS HATTON:hey

Fab2333 · Nov 15, 2007

Floyd will win
Hope it will b a great fight

warrior85 · Nov 15, 2007

you THINK floyd will win,nobody KNOWS,this fight is 50/50

Asterion · Nov 15, 2007

Oh please, saying that there's a lot of difference between 147 and 140 is ridiculous. There's a difference, but not so much.

Hatton sucked against Collazo because of this:

1. He was 160 lbs. the night of the fight
2. Collazo's size
3. Collazo's style.
4. He underrated Collazo.

Those were the reasons why he struggled against Collazo. Not because of 7 ****in pounds.

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