To those who believe Hatton will beat Mayweather

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Popshots, Nov 14, 2007.


  1. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    I completely agree that people look WAY too much into that extra 7 pounds and say that is the death of him. But for the record I do take Mayweather to win the fight. I hope im wrong but typically in these matches the quicker and slick boxer wins 90% of the time. And Hatton has never EVER faced a guy of Maweathers caliber. Hatton expects to keep Mayweather so busy that he throws his rhythm off and wears him out. Does he realize that he is fighting a guy who has (imo and lot of others) THE BEST conditioning out there? My crystal ball unfortunately sees Mayweather counterpunching Hatton all night with crisp jabs that take their toll in the later rounds when the fight is stopped because of all his cuts. Just my .2
    And for the record I would be one of the happiest people on esb if Hatton beat the crap out of PBF,,,,but I have to be realistic with my predictions. :deal
     
  2. iceman

    iceman Tis my Island Full Member

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    Fair enough but why did he also struggle against Urango especially in the latter rounds
     
  3. Ziggy Montana

    Ziggy Montana The Butcher Full Member

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    Whaaaa?
     
  4. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    PBF's fans are like brick walls.

    It's pure arrogance and disrespect toward Ricky, who has achieved a hell of a lot in boxing, and British boxing in general.

    We've seen Ricky for years. I know he hasn't fought well for his last 3 fights or so but ultimately he has won. We know his character, his strength and most importantly his ability to raise his game so we give him a fair chance to win. More in hope than true confidence.

    This dismissive attitude all PBF fans have and trash talking, demanding we agree with them is tiresome and not in the spirit of boxing debate.

    I really hope Ricy fights a good fight, gets the odd bit of luck and pulls this off.

    If he has to lose so be it, but i hope he loses in a great fight.
     
  5. Ziggy Montana

    Ziggy Montana The Butcher Full Member

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    Floyd sort of turned southpaw at times against Judah.
     
  6. Ziggy Montana

    Ziggy Montana The Butcher Full Member

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    Don't speak for every fan. The most stubburn, most obnoxious fans, are often a minority - a loud minority but a minority nonetheless.

    In any case, a boxer should be appreciated for his boxing skills, not for his fans.
     
  7. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    \it's just frutrating when you want to have an interesting conversation about boxing and 99% of posters are talking about your boy like he's a bum
     
  8. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    I don't see Hatton winning by KO. Floyd is to defensive to get KO'd and if Floyd is getting hit or getting hurt he will put on his running shoes.

    That being said the only way I see Ricky beating Floyd is if he imposes his strength/power/pressure and Floyd doesn't like it then it might cause Floyd to turtle up and fight defensive minded.

    What do you think will happen if Hatton throws punch after punch after punch and 1/3rd of them hit Floyd and the other 2/3rds graze off and land on places like the arms/shoulders.. Compare that to a situation in which Floyd is only throwing a few counter punches a round then you can see how Floyd could lose rounds to Hatton.

    If Floyd doesn't open up offensively and he doesn't warm up on his attack then this can easily be a close fight. Defensive fighters eventually shoot themselves in the foot because of inactivity on the offensive side of the game, and that is the only way I can see Floyd lossing.
     
  9. Darthmage

    Darthmage SILENCE! I KEEL J00! Full Member

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    7 rds to 3 with 2 even. PBF UD12 Hatton. Calling it....NOW
     
  10. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can understand why Hatton would be looking to weigh less than the 147 he did against Callazo, but why are they saying that his best weight is 143 ???

    He's never fought at 143, he's been 140 or 147 vs Callazo.
     
  11. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is a difficult fight for both guys really and seriously.

    Floyd has never fought a pound for pound quality guy like Hatton (no, Oscar does not count), and has looked at his most vulnerable in the face of determined pressure. Although he has a reputation for adapting in the Ring, the only two fighters considered to be even slightly competitive in the last 5 years (Oscar and Judah) did indeed pose him considerable problems, even though arguably neither of them were genuine top 5 fighters in their division at the time.

    Hatton, on the other hand has beaten, and convincingly, a genuine HOFer, and since then fought a string of awkward and respectable opponents. He has shown weaknesses though. His conditioning was highly dubious against Urango, and he fought a tactically appaling fight against Collazo.

    In terms of styles, they both have things going for them. The slick boxer versus the pressure fighter is the classic match ( remember Duran vs Ray Leonard in Montreal?), and they both do what they do well. Floyd doesn't have a hope in hell of frustrating, intimidating or confusing Hatton. Ricky is too focused for that, and besides, he has plenty of skills himself, when he uses them. He's not just a one dimensional fighter.

    Floyd can stop him getting set though. They both use angles well, but if Floyd can be the one who is one step ahead and make Ricky react to him, then I have seen Hatton put out of position before. His feet can get behind him and his leverage is reduced.

    On the other hand, if Hatton can cut the ring off, he'll take shots coming in happily in order to get close to Floyd. He had to come in through Tszyu's right hand to get in position, and showed a good command of distance, and a good understanding of good positioning.

    Floyd is elusive, of course, but he's not a great improvisor. He often takes a few rounds to look good while he tries to figure out his foe. If Hatton can press hard enough and be even moderately effective, it might be hard for Floyd to get a rhythm.
     
  12. tony628

    tony628 New Member Full Member

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    well said:happy
     
  13. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Hatton will weigh more then Floyd on fight night, even if he comes into the weigh in at 140-142ish.
     
  14. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    No ones saying his best weight is 143.


    We are saying, he tried to add weight on himself asgainst Collazo. He bulked a tad and it did not work out for him. His stamina was not normal and he looked a bit more sluggish.

    Also, he does not have to put on the weight at the weighin. Ricky can easily fight at 140. So he will train down like he if was going to cut 140. But he will only cut down to 143ish probably.


    Basically, he'll keep him weight lower then Collazo and he wont drain himself. Its kind of decieving considering, he is fighting at 147 but he doesn't want to weigh that at the weigh in.
     
  15. MJRJJ23

    MJRJJ23 Active Member Full Member

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    I personally dont think weight is going to have to much to do with this fight at all, I dont understand why there's being so much attention to the weight. I think Mayweather naturally is a littile smaller than Hatton, the only reason why Mayweather is succesful at higher weights is because his talent will carry him, remember that Hatton's prime weight is 140 and Mayweather's prime weight is probably 135 maybe 140. I also dont agree with many people saying that the only way Mayweather would fight hatton is if its a 147IB fight cause its not gonna benefit Mayweather as much as people assume it will, Mayweather lost a good amount of power from 135-140 to fight at WW. Like others said Hatton will probalby come in the heavier man come fight night