To those who have seen both Hopkins-Taylor fights, please vote and comment...

had both for taylor.. i clearly had the first for taylor..

im actually beginning, to doubt my score for the 2 fight.. but if i recall correct, it was in favour of taylor or a draw..

 

Bernard should have got the second fight, it was a clear win. Of course Jermaine got robbed in the 2nd Pavlik fight. He landed many more clean, powerful shots and Pavlik could only score with a jab. I guess it was fate since he himself was gifted perhaps a couple.

 

Truth be told I've never actually made a close examination of these fights, though I've seen them multiple times each. I had Taylor winning both fights on the casual. The second with greater certainty than the first, if I recall correctly.

 

I'm baffled as to why so many in a boxing forum like this saw Hopkins winning even one, much less both fights.

Hopkins workrate in both fights was **** poor.....much more the the first fight where it took him 6 freaking rounds to warm up.

Taylor won both fights comfortably on my scorecard.


I dont know what is it about posers that some fightfans call Ring Generalship!:-(

 

depends what you score on. taylor didn't land any effective punches. people gave it to taylor based purely on lack of workrate by hopkins.

 

Hopkins fought scared, and lost his ass. Bottom line.

 

I thought Taylor won both in close fights.

 

in the first fight i dont see how you can give the fight to taylor. Hopkins had 5 rounds which he dominated and which were lock and key whereas most of jermaines rounds were down to interpretation and hopkins landed the cleaner more effective punches. I had hopkins winning rounds 5,9,10,11,12 clearly and i thought he won 8 and 4 which were close.
I'll watch the second fight again and give a more thorough scorecard

 

IMO i beleive hopkins thought taylor was better than he actually is , and fought him accordingly.

hopkins fought like a calculator both times , trying to do just enough mathamatically to nick rounds and the fights , instead of going out and trying to win both fights a round at a time.

he took 6 rounds off in both fights m making it near impossible for him to get the wins.

i beleive hopkins to be a much better fighter than taylor and if they fought again , hopkins would know it this time and fight accordingly.

winning a few rounds big which hopkins did ,does not score more points than winning a few rounds close which is what taylor did.

a round is a round is a round and 10/9 is the same wide or narrow.

 

Exellent!

......but I dont believe Hopkins beats Taylor is they meet again.

Speed is what old fighters have trouble with........both Taylor and Calzaghe had it.
Tarver and Pavlik were dismantled by a technical master in great part because Hopkins was faster than both.

......I'd bet that Hopkins would fight Taylor the same way that he did both times.....tentative and cautious of not leaving himself open against a fighter that can beat him to the punch.

 

For once, I believe we're in complete agreement.

Sean's analysis was spot on, but I agree with your ammendment to it in regards to the speed issue.