To those who say "Jones should've fought Eubank/Benn/Collins"...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by horst, Jun 17, 2011.


  1. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    ??????
    Nun wasn't coming off a loss and even if he was, he was still way better than anyone Jones defended his belt against at smw.

    Nunn smw

    After his very debatable loss to Liles, Nunn would go on a 6 fight win streak before asking Jones for a shot for his ibf smw belt

    Nunn lhw
    Nunn was his wbc lhw mandatory. Jones vacated his belt rather than fight him. Even his boss Seth Abraham (quoted above) said he did it to avoid Nunn
    Theres a difference between taking a smaller percent and not getting paid at all
    So according to you Benn should of fought no one, while waiting for a fight which might not happen instead.
    He ducked Nunn.
    I have no problem with him turning down Eubank, because Eubank was coming off losses to Collins
     
  2. horst

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    You are preaching to the converted my friend.

    Jones is a ducker after all.

    He didn't fight Nunn and Eubank coming off losses, he wanted 100% of the money vs Steve Collins leaving the WBO king to receive £0.00 for the fight, and he didn't manage to bust up Benn's storming '95 featuring superfights with Vincenzo Nardiello and Danny Perez.

    I'm on board.
     
  3. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    this is precisely why silencer labelled you a "pissy little poster" :deal


    what a complete and utter ***** you are :lol:


















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  4. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    so who do you rank higher p4p - froch or ward?
     
  5. horst

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  6. horst

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    After Froch's win over Johnson, I'd rank them pretty much equally in anticipation of their unification clash.

    I rate Johnson highly, so was very impressed by Froch's performance in deservedly defeating a teak-tough opponent.

    Even though Kessler beat Froch and Ward dominated Kessler, even though I scored the Dirrell-Froch fight for Dirrell, and even though I think Ward has superior ability to Froch, Froch's edge in competition and resume drags him to somewhere close to equal in the p4p standings.

    It all hinges on their fight.
     
  7. HEADBANGER

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    this is precisely why silencer labelled you a "pissy little poster" :deal


    what a complete and utter ***** you are :lol:















    :smoke
     
  8. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    I wish that DM and Jones could've come to an agreement. I mostly fault DM for that because at least Jones fought out of his country of comfort in his career shot or not, something DM never did. Collins would've been stomped, Nunn in the late 90's posed no serious threat to Jones, Benn and Eubank were faded, and Calzaghe was not a huge name at Jones' peak plus Jones moved up to lt hvy in '96 the year before JC beat an old, drained man in Eubank. Jones was too good for his own good but it's funny for some Jones' haters to fault him for not going to GERMANY to fight DM yet DM fought there his WHOLE career.
     
  9. BrooklynMumin

    BrooklynMumin HOPKINS A " G " Full Member

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    how many of the afore-mentioned actually called out RJJ?
     
  10. horst

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    WHAT TIME IS IT???



    I SAID WHAT TIME IS IT????





    YOU GUESSED IT...



    IT'S PWN O'CLOCK!!!!!!!!



    ESB ELITE IMMORTAL TITAN OF INDUSTRY HEADBANGER HAS FINISHED HIS SHIFT IN BURGER KING, GONE INTO HIS MANAGER'S OFFICE, LOGGED ON TO HIS PC, AND IS NOW UNLEASHING A RELENTLESS AND VICIOUS TORRENT OF WHITE-HOT PWNAGE DESPITE STILL SUFFERING THE CONFINES OF HIS B.K HAT AND 'WHOPPER' POLO SHIRT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    YOU WANT FRIES WITH THAT??? **** OFF HOMIE, I'M HEADBANGER, THE IRREPRESSIBLE UNSTOPPABLE ESB ELITE TECHNICIAN WHO UNLOADS PWNAGE ON THE TERRIFIED CITIZENS OF ESB WITH THE SAME EASE THAT HE SPRINKLES THE SALT INTO THE FRIES IN HIS DAY JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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  11. HEADBANGER

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    so in your august p4p rankings last year you had ward ranked as number 6 p4p and you didn't have froch in your top 10.

    you thought ward deserved to be ranked number 6 p4p when his only notable win on his resume was a win over kessler (despite you never having kessler anywhere near your p4p lists).

    ward has since gone on to beat bika and abrahams - so where do you now place ward on your p4p list?

    where do you now place froch on your p4p list?

    johnsons super-middleweight resume consists of defeats to kinawuka, sosa, ottke, branco, sheika, and vanderpool, with johnsons only half decent win at supermid v alan green. yet you think that this victory over johnson is now enough to push froch up to a similar p4p rating as ward? is this a fair interpretation of your opinion, if not why not?









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  12. horst

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    Ward has slid down my rankings because has not built on his win over Kessler by fighting top comp, Froch has risen in my rankings because he just keeps adding to a resume which is growing ever more solid.


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  13. horst

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    Out of curiosity, what is your current pound-for-pound top 10?
     
  14. horst

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    In fact, we always talk about the current scene.

    Why don't we talk about boxing history instead?

    Well, either that or we could talk about all the great threads you've produced in your time on ESB.

    You in the mood Heady old chum? Shall we have a chat about boxing history now, with your mantra in mind?

    :think
     
  15. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    HUGE DUCK FROM PISSY POPKINS


    1 - Why did you not answer all my questions?

    2 - why do you think ward was justified to be ranked p4p as number 6 just for beating kessler (a fighter you have never rated)

    3 - where do you now rate ward in your p4p list?

    4 - why does ward go down on your list after beating both abrahams and bika, how can ward fight better comp than that when he is in the tournament?

    5 - where do you now rank froch p4p in your list?

    6 - glen johnsons only half decent win at super-middleweight is v alan green. johnson has losses at supermid to kinawuka, sosa, ottke, branco, sheika, and vanderpool, so why does this win justify you moving froch up the p4p rankings?

    7 - both ward and froch beat abraham convincingly, there only other fights were victories over bika (ward) and johnson (froch). who do you think has the better supermiddleweight resume in bika and johnson?







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