To those who thing a 'prime' Tyson can't be hugged and tied down

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  1. SUGAR J

    SUGAR J P4P KING Full Member

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    Not if he tagged them first, Bruno had a great jab, sets up his right hand perfectly against both Klits
     
  2. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................so you are claiming to be psychic?

    Lewis easily shut down Tyson........
     
  3. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Is that really true? How many one-punch KOs can you recall? Botha comes to mind, other than that? Nada.

    Tyson wasn't punching overly hard (measured in physical force) for a heavyweight, he was able to land devastating combinations (as in aggregate effect). That's a key difference.

    For Tyson to unleash his power he doesn't just 'have to land once', he has to land a series of punches cleanly, which is very very difficult when a 245 lbs 6"5-6"6 fighter is grabbing and leaning all over you (see Lewis fight).
     
  4. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Spinks, Tubbs. Berbick, although he was softened up a bit by then.
     
  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Tyson has over 20 one punch knockouts and has floored plenty guys with one punch. You don't have a clue what your talking about.
     
  6. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holyfield fought in a style complete opposite of Wlad

    Wlad hugs, kisses, jabs and hopes he makes it to the final bell.

    Holyfield had the heart, chin and mentality to trade with Tyson.

    Wlad doesnt. Tyson most likely knocks Wlad clean out if he hits him with the first punch he hit Holyfield with.

    The same overhand right which sent Holyfield flying across the ring, the same punch that broke Golotas facial bones and made him quit
     
  7. brown-bomber

    brown-bomber Member Full Member

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    This guy is plain ass dumb. Tyson was combination puncher in his prime. He didn't just go for broke with one shot.

    I think only 2 fighters hit harder. Shavers and Foreman.

    http://m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/story?storyId=3168817&src=desktop

    Before you slam this article, just remember someone got paid to do it.
     
  8. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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  9. TheNeonSalmon

    TheNeonSalmon Active Member Full Member

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    haha Povetkin half as strong as Tyson,half as fast,half as explosive.

    Tyson vs Wlad= 10 second KO easy. Tyson at age 19 would beat Wladimir. I'd bet anything on it.
     
  10. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bonecrusher's style is nowhere near as refined as Wlad's. And Wlad has more height and reach making it harder to get inside. Plus Wlad weighs more, and uses it to tire his opponent in the clinch.

    Bonecrusher doesn't use his weight in the clinch, he often wastes energy pushing out, and Tyson is hitting him in there. The clinch would be refined by Lewis, perefected by Wlad. Now it needs to be banned, at least among heavies where there are frequently 15+ lb weight advantages.

    Of course, no Wlad opponent, including Povetkin is near as fast as this Tyson. Haye's speed is somewhat comparable but lacks Tyson's chin so he's less willing to go inside.

    This 87 Tyson might be able to get inside and knock out many versions of Wlad, including the one we saw Oct 5. In any Tyson/Wlad matchup, we have to assume the ref is neutral. And even if the ref allowed Wladtactics, then Tyson would get payback via low blows or elbows or butts or w/e.

    Tyson is the underdog vrs. the Wlad that showed up vrs. Haye and vrs. Chambers. Too much range, weight smarts, and speed for Tyson to deal with. Still I'd give him at least 25% against any version of Wlad.
     
  11. eagleskins

    eagleskins Active Member Full Member

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    Where does the notion of Tyson having anything other than a terrible chin come from?
     
  12. Malcolm

    Malcolm Active Member Full Member

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    All of Tyson's KO loses came toward the end of fights where he had already taken a ton of punches and was completely exhausted. He has taken a plenty of super hard punches in the first half of fights, his chin doesn't let him down, his stamina does. Explain how Tyson has a terrible chin? How many times was he KD'd off of one punch in the first 6 rounds of a fight?
     
  13. VBOX

    VBOX JOURNEYMAN Full Member

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    You Hugbot fans act as if smothering a guy in a boxing match is some great accomplishment. The argument for WK beating Tyson is he'd hold 'em all night, hardly something to brag about.
     
  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    the opposite opinion comes from your bumhole, I would guess.
     
  15. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bruno did much better than Vitali, against a much better version of Lewis