To those who think Floyd is great.

For mayweather to be considered as great as muhammad ali or anywhere close, he must fight and beat fighters, who fans dont think he could beat.

hatton is a good start, imo this fight is 50/50. and if he gets hatton, whcih is no guarantee,

then he must fight a miguel cotto, and if he gets past cotto then he must beat a monster of a fighter in paul williams. then maybe fight some young fighters again, like berto etc.

these fights will make his legacy go sky high. maybe as high as muhammad ali's, if he wins them ofcourse.

 

Cotto, and Williams.

Two undefeated fighters. Both with titles.

 

Jones absolutley dominated Barrera in the first fight.

 

problem is, i cant think of a fighter Mayweather wouldnt be a favorite over. that is a measure of his greatness. i think all time great is overated anyways, why is hearns great? he knocked out a midget in Cuevas, a Duran above his best weight, and got stopped by Leonard, Hagler, Barkley. etc. why is Hagler an all timer? beaten by leonard, stopped hearns, had a tough time against a duran that was again above his best weight. ali had fights he struggled in. i agree with anyone that says you cant measure the career till the guy has been done for awhile.

 

total rubbish.

Every boxers starts off at 0-0-0 so there would be no greats for other boxers to beat.

PBF's resume is far better than anyone's at the moment. He's beat a string of high profile champions at various weight for numerous titles.

Who should he be fighting then?

 

[QUOTE"wrastla285"]Castillo X 2- barley won the 1st fight, second fight did well, but Castillo is/was far from great. Probably his most impressive opponent however.[/QUOTE]

he barely won the first fight with a torn rotator cuff. Second fight was a true indication. His fight with corrales was, to me, the most impressive, as corrales was prime and floyd dominated him.

Floyd is great; his skill is unmatched and he is a very smart fighter. he's just cocky, which pisses people off.

The only thing he has to do to seal his legact is beat cotto or williams, or both.

 

I think that it is easy to make post-facto rationalisations about any given fighter's career's achievements but Mayweather has been put to the test several times by now - the aforementioned fights and opponents were above else risks that Floyd undertook to get to this unquestioned pound-per-pound top position. I highly disagree that we should descredit some of Mayweather's wins: over Chico Corrales cause some few others were able to do it afterwards ( Mayweather would lose a first WBC Super-Feather Championship right there had he not knocked down 5 times a previous undefeated Champion in a dominant performance); beat Castillo by closer scores in the rematch than in the first time but JLC was undeniably the best lightweight at that moment ( Mayweather would fairly win his second WBC Championship at lightweight and 3rd world title); Sharmba Mitchell was his first opponent at 147 pounds and he beat him fair and square like he did to two other former world champs in DeMarcus Corley and Arturo Gatti ( won a 3rd WBC W - Super-Lightweight or a Light Welter Title) and moved in impressive aggressive fashion to welterweight and that is nothing to be disregarded ( Paul Williams would do the same n not long ago against Sharmba); the Judah fight was a definining moment where Floyd did prove he was in fact among the best at this weight class and more, proved to be clear-headed and cold-blooded to go through the whole situation created right there ( not the same can be said of Roger, Joel and Zab Judah) - Judah is still a top welter and a former undisputed champion ( just in 2005) so doesn't really matter that he lost to Baldomir and now to Cotto; had a wholly one-sided fight and a shutout decision against a man that shocked the previous champ and destroyed Gatti to become the Welterweight Champ ( 4th WBC Division Championship and 5th title); Hoya was past his prime but still made a lot of money and put a lot of pressure on a smaller man stepping up to his single fight at this weight class as yet ( 6th WBC World Championship at 5th Division or Weight Class).
These were all good opponents and the win over De la Hoya can not be compared exactly with Shane's, Trinidad's or even Hopkins' but that is not the reason I wouldn't elevate this marvellous boxer to legendary status... Basically, Floyd has to catch our hearts and leave a bright mark in our collective memory like Gatti, Chavez, Trinidad and others have done and that is to overcome a very difficult situation and prove his warrior's heart - I know he has that stuff that makes great fighters and legends in him, just didn't came across that moment so that it can come rigt out and that can well be against someone with the attributes of Hatton.

 

You been hating Floyd for a good while now...

 

According to your dumb a$$ Wrastla Ricky Hatton!

 

:rofl
Another one of his dumbass posts!

 

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apologies for not going through all the posts (2007 eh?) but not all fighters have to fight someone great to earn that title. they should but it's not always possible. Some fighters dominate there eras so thoroughly, eusebio pedroza for instance, that they attain greatness. the argument can made that pedroza fought a great fighter in olivares but he was badly faded. 19 defenses against very good competition and dominating your era count for a lot to. duran as well beat on some very good competition at lightweight and was considered great before the leonard win

 

Whats with all the 57 year old threads getting dug up today??

 

Victim of his own success

 

Mayweather was great before he stopped Hatton and he still is today, not everyone can win titles in 5 different weight classes.