To Whome does the Catchweight Favour? Smaller Fighter or Bigger Fighter?

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  1. neemo2357

    neemo2357 Active Member Full Member

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    I'm curious of others opinions on this as I don't think I have a fully informed opinion. It seems to be something held against Pacquiao's accomplishments when moving up in weight and winning the way he has. IMO If both fighters have agreed and know what they're getting into then I feel this should not be controversial.

    I was curious if there's been any analysis done or stats to show win percentages of fighters that came up/down to fight at an agreed catchweight?
     
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  2. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    There has been a lot of rigorous scientific research on this topic.

    The conclusion is that the fighter you hate the most is the one gaining an unfair advantage, and is therefore a cheat and worse than Hitler.
     
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  3. vengeex

    vengeex Boxing Junkie banned

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    ha ha :lol: trick question... but whatever the conclusion, my boy will still be the winner. :D
     
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  4. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Tim Bradley should be made to fight the winner of Cotto-Margarito at 150. If he's able to do what Pac did, then it would be safe to say the little guy has the advantage. Forget that the majority of catchweights throughout history have had the bigger guy beating the little guy coming up, that means nothing.
     
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  5. Jetmax

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    It favors the smaller fighter. It's not rocket science why do you have to ask?
     
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  6. vengeex

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    So small JMM is favored in his forthcoming catchweight fight at 144 lbs. against the bigger Manny Pacquiao? ;)
     
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  7. neemo2357

    neemo2357 Active Member Full Member

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    I've got no hidden agenda people. I guess I'm trying to encourage debate (or stir up a ****-storm) as it could work for either fighter.

    Like I say I don't have a fully informed opinion. There are those that passionately against catchweights and those who couldn't give a monkeys. Just want your views thats all.
     
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  8. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    its not that hard if you do a little research or just maybe ask the guy in your avy..:-((
     
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  9. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    We have how many weight division. Catchweights are ****. **** PAc, Floyd, SRL, ODLH, blah blah blah.
     
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  10. Green Man

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    :deal:deal:deal:deal
     
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  11. NorthernCross

    NorthernCross Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Depends on the fighters, depends on the catchweight. Technically, a 167 fight between Ward and Pac would be a catchweight. Same as Sergio Martinez v. Gamboa at 127. Generally, it comes down whose ideal weight the catchweight is closest to, with the tie-breaker tipping away from the fighter who has to lose weight.

    EDIT: That said, it's not necessarily a bad thing if a bout is a catchweight per se. Official weight classes are based on arbitrary numbers anyways. It only becomes a big deal if the difference between a fighter's ideal weight and the catchweight is so great that it gives his an opponent a substantial advantage.
     
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  12. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Wrong, *******!

    The correct answer is "PACMAN IS A ****** ****!"
     
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  13. NorthernCross

    NorthernCross Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sure there's that, but that has nothing to do with my electric bill.
     
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  14. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did you take that pic of your mum you sick little ****er?:!:
     
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  15. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    I know, I know.

    It's just that when I think of bloody Pacman building a time machine so he could go back in time and invent catchweights so that he could be the biggest douche-cheater in the history of douche-cheating... I get kinda mad.

    :twisted:
     
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