Todays Boxrecs P4P-List

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by RankingBad, Dec 5, 2016.


  1. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jesus that's a really bad list, I mean, really horrible.
     
  2. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What's hilarious is that 10, 9, 8 is a lot of people's 1, 2, 3 p4p.
     
  3. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is an exposure bias in boxrec's system. Because there's an exposure bias in matchmaking. Boxrec overrates wins over 'name' opponents, even if they are past prime, or moving up from lower weight divisions. And promotionally well-positioned fighters have the best chance at getting fights with the top names. Highly skilled boxers who don't have pr muscle aren't acknowledged as they should be by boxrec. So boxrec perpetuates the misconception that p4p is about 'beating names', rather than ability regardless of size.
     
  4. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    That is unfortunately a consequence of the way matchmaking works rather than of how Boxrec works - Boxrec does penalise guys for not fighting regularly or for fighting guys of a lower (by Boxrecs reckoning) calibre, and guys moving up are worth fewer points (though the scaling alogorithm seems a bit arbitrary) but yeah, recognised names just get more opportunities whether they are objectively better fighters or not. Indeed it could be argued that the ideal opponent is one who has a big name and past victories but is now on the slide, but that ain't unique to Boxrec either.. It is one of the issues than tends to lead people to overate fighters - it's like guys get an extra couple of Brownie points just for having shared a ring with Floyd or Manny for instance - but it's very hard for me to imagine any way of compensating for that under a computerised system.

    EDIT: Besides like I say, the whole concept of P4P is a rancid bucket of pig's liver. Indeed I'm not even sure why I just wasted another 10 mins of my life, except for the fact that your response was courteous and considered and deserved reciprocation.:D
     
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