Todays Wlad vs Joe Frazier...

Expert analysis disagrees:

George Foreman-"The rope a dope won't work on Wlad, he'd break Ali's arms." Ring Magazine May 2000

Bernard Hopkins-"Wlad is just too fast and busy. Ali wouldn't know where the punches would be coming from. " Ring Magazine Dec. 2002

Samuel Peter-"I was like Ali...."

 

in my mind the way too beat joe frazier in his prime is with uppercuts(thats why i think tyson would have annihilated frazier). wlad cant throw an uppercut for **** and joe would slip that jab and get inside as wlads jab is too slow to hit joe regularly. ali, who has the fastest jab in heavyweight history found it hard to hit frazier with it due to the bob and weave style. wlad moves back in straight lines so frazier would find it easy to manouvre wlad to the ropes and chop down the tree. we would find out godzilla isnt so green, he is actually yellow and soft, like custard or perhaps blancmange with a yellow food colouring in it. we're dealing with desert not stew here and that is the fact of the matter. stew beats dessert every day of the week. joe frazier is boef bourgingnon and wlad is barely even a mr whippy.

 

Enough said.

 

The most comparable fighter to the Klitschko's from Ali's era was Earnie Shavers and Ali beat Shavers past his prime. Shavers hit much harder with that right hand than Vitali or Wladimir. Again, why are people leap frogging guys like Larry Holmes, Riddick Bowe, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis and Mike Tyson to prop up the Klitschko's? Are Wladimir and Vitali paying these people?

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

So now, not only do you want to do this already lame **** with all the lame subjectivity, you also want to either Shrink Wlad or explode Foreman?

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Not surprising that you can't comprehend why you grade different eras on a curve when it pertains to size. No surprise, tells me a lot about you, and ending it with a says even more.

 

If you do, OK.

Wlad gets extra toughness points and speed points.

Even better!

 

You aren't very objective and 80+% of the population would be able to comprehend my posts about the size difference in eras. Welcome to the 20%.

 

If Fraizer was fighting today, he would be a cruiserweight, no doubt the best cruiser out there. You would never see him get in the ring with Wlad....if he does Wlad punishes him with the jab and KOs him eventually.

 

If Frazier were born in this era, with the hormones and steroids farms put in milk, meat, etc, he would be 25lbs heavier and 1 inch taller.

Average adult Americans are about one inch taller, but nearly a whopping 25 pounds heavier than they were in 1960, according to a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The report, Mean Body Weight, Height, and Body Mass Index (BMI) 1960-2002: United States, shows that the average height of a man increased from just over 5'8" in 1960 to 5'9½" in 2002. Meanwhile, the average weight for men rose dramatically from 166.3 pounds in 1960 to 191 pounds in 2002.

 

No, the most comparable fighter was undefeated Soviet Ivan Boloff 49-0 45 KOs. Due to the Iron Curtain, he was only allowed to fight the bravest Americans in exhibitions in Moscow. He Koed both Quarry brothers in a single round and stopped Ron Lyle inside of 2. When asked to fight Ivan in an exhibition, Ali told Don King "**** you, you love him so much, you fight him."

 

Great retort!

Let me try.

You aren't very objective and 80+% of the population would be able to comprehend my posts about the double standards applied in Fantasy match-ups. Welcome to the 20%.

Woah, this is great!

 

Never heard of him and not a trace of his existence on google. You taught me something. Clearly, Ali didn't fight this character, but he fought Shavers who used his right hand as an out punch just like the Klitschko's and defeated him.

 

I accuse McDonald.

 

You are cherry picking what you perceive would be advantages for the Klitschkos, which proves your lack of objectivity when the only true data that can be presented in the differences is the height/weight. If you think all the sudden blasting Wladimir back to Ali's era means he wouldn't have a glass jaw any more, so be it. That's why Wladimir boxes the way he does, he knows if he gets hit, it will be the 12th time down in his career.