Tokyo Buster Douglas vs MSG Andy Ruiz

The point is that Ruiz won against a more difficult and durable opponent at MSG than Douglas.

Douglas would need to be on his bicycle for 12 rounds to maximize his chances. The problem is that Douglas never really did that, but Ruiz has the skill to counter Douglas with something big and/or slowly break him down.

 

Tokyo Douglas was created by a perfect storm of things occurring at the same time. His movement avoiding Tyson early and evading a desperate Tyson later, would trouble Ruiz just as AJ’s did in Saudi Arabia.

Tokyo Douglas worked Tyson over pillar to post for nearly every round.
MSG Ruiz was knocked on his ass and caught AJ with a million dollar left to the Temple as AJ got reckless moving in on a smaller man to finish him.

MSG Ruiz win was off that one shot as AJ never fully recovered while Tokyo Douglas showed excellence in every round.

Tokyo Douglas via Doctor/Ref/Ruiz corner stoppage as Andy has a hell of a chin.

 

Horse****. Ruiz set Joshua and wore him down over several rounds after the big shot.

He ripped a huge right to Joshua’s body in the round before last and Joshua pretty much checked out and stopped throwing after that, then looked for a Hail Mary in the last round.

 

I think MSG Joshua was neither a more difficult nor more durable opponent than "Tokyo" Douglas. The contrast between their respective career paths has nothing to do with the question posed in this thread.

Just because Butterbean's Padawan Learner managed to dominate and ultimately knock a comparatively static Joshua all over the ring, doesn't mean he'd achieve anything like the same results against the version of Douglas, who showed up in Tokyo.

Douglas' footwork was excellent against Tyson, which enabled him to operate behind a terrific jab for large parts of the fight - something Joshua didn't do against Ruiz, at MSG, thereby allowing Ruiz to close the distance with ease. Ruiz isn't closing the distance on Douglas that easily.

Moreover, and as obvious as this might be, the other key difference between Tokyo Douglas and MSG Joshua is that Douglas was able to get up off the canvas and go on to win; Joshua got up and couldn't turn the tide, with him ultimately getting beaten up.

This doesn't make Ruiz capable of beating Tyson, at any time or by any stretch of the imagination.

 

Look, Douglas had a corpse of Tyson in front of him when he almost got knocked out. Joshua had a fresh Ruiz in front of him.

People mistake Ruiz for being unskilled but he was fighting tactically on even terms with Joshua before he got knocked down. He’s one of the most skilled in the division. His weakness lies in having to reset his feet with lateral movers. I don’t think Douglas would do that consistently enough.

I don’t know if you’ve boxed before, but giving up weight to Ruiz would be hell in comparison to fighting Tokyo Tyson. It would drain twice as much energy and stamina was never Buster’s strong point.

 

No - you look... ...Douglas put on the superior performance against the superior opponent.

Referring to the version of Tyson that Douglas fought, as a "corpse", pretty much reveals your lack of perspective on this matter.

Even at half-speed, a pre-prison Tyson is considerably better than Ruiz in every department - and Douglas never looked like being knocked out. He was knocked down, but plainly clear-headed throughout those brief moments in the fight.

The rest of your post is fairly aimless speculation.

 

Tyson was a corpse running on fumes by the time he almost put Douglas away.

Earlier in the fight he was a mediocre version of himself who would’ve been dismantled by a long list of heavyweights.

 

You're just a big box of bold overstatement, these days.

This "long list" you mention... ...isn't anywhere near as long as you might have thought, when you typed those words out - and, in any event, Ruiz Jr's name isn't on it.