Tokyo Buster Douglas vs. Rid**** Bowe from First Holyfield Fight.

I think you don't know the objectivity you ignore Holyfield's
weak things.
Don't forget Holyfield has 10 losses ! Plus Holy had other problematic fights:His Holmes performance was pathetic.
(At least Tyson could knock younger Holmes out.)
Holyfield was **** against the bum Bert Cooper (he was down.) etc. Otherwise everbody knows these fighters' carrier.
-Holyfield was lucky against Tyson on the rematch.
Tyson was better in the third round this bite **** saved the tired Holy from the beating.
Maybe Holy was better than Tyson but he was far away from the
perfection.

 

Bowe by brutal KO.

 

The Douglas that beat Tyson would decision, maybe even stop him. ...like the much less talented Golota was in the process of doing....and i know that we're talking about the Bowe that beat Holyfield, well Golota would have been a nightmare for that version too with the style, and size he had, and the jab....so therefore, the Buster Douglas of Tokyo, being superior to Golota, would do a real number on Bowe. Anybody who disagrees with me can find a good New York lawyer and sue me.

 

I'd pick Douglas because I think he was firing a hell of jab if I recall correctly, and I don't think Holyfield fighting toe to toe against Bowe was a particularly good strategy. Wouldn't be shocked if Bowe won, but if I was wagering I'd place a small bet on Douglas.

 

Holyfeild just was not a highly regarded champion until he beat Bowe and then Tyson in that order.

When Bowe beat him Evander was not rated as much of a champion. Bowe had a weight and size advantage and represented Evanders first test against a strong young heavyweight.

If we are talking about Bowe of the first Holyfeild fight we are talking about a fighter with all the advantages against a lower regarded champion. Yes it was a great fight and a good performance but at that point it was a win over a lesser regarded linear champion. It was his first fight against an unbeaten opponent so he had been matched quite well too.

Douglas on the other hand was a proven fighter with a shaky record at best. He was going against a proven present time regarded ATG who had beat men younger and as big time and time again. His size advantage as not regarded as an advantage at all. And let's not forget he knocked Tyson out. Tokyo Douglas, on that night showed much much more. Night for night he was better IMO. And had to be to win.

 

Rid**** Bowe

 

I don't think it's fair to call either a 'one hit wonder', especially Bowe. But Douglas himself also beat the guys that The Long Count just mentioned. He was no Rocky, but a top 10 contender.

As far as the fight goes, Bowe is just physically stronger in my opinion. He might be outboxed for awhile but will eventually catch Buster and take him out. Not too hard to figure, really.

 

I think Bowe probably beats Douglas.
Tyson was a short little guy who came right at Douglas.
I think Bowe, whatever his flaws, would pose a whole set of different problems with his size alone.

 

10 losses and 2 draws... some deserved, some not... some past the age of 35, some past 40, some past 45... all of them past the age of 30!

At age 30 Holyfield was 28-0 (22) overall, 10-0 (7) in World Title Fights (Undisputed CW and Undisputed HW World Champ), and 5-0 (2) vs. Hall of Famers.

Sure, he hadn't even fought Bowe x3, Moorer, x2, Mercer, Tyson x2, and Lewis x2. Just because these fights happened in Holyfield's 30's... doesn't mean that he was in his prime during his 30's... he wasn't.

As for Holmes, Holyfield won the fight clearly. Holyfield showed the man more respect than he should have but he won the fight clearly. Holmes had won 6 fights in a row including a near shut out over an undefeated Ray Mercer. When Holmes fought Tyson he had not fought in 2 years or won a fight in 3 years. He even recorded an album during training camp... he didn't give a shlt back in those days, he was determined vs. Holyfield though.

 

OK

It is not what Douglas did but what Tyson did not do.......Spinks/Holmes Tyson takes Douglas out no matter what version shows up.

Douglas started nervously but nothing came back from Tyson, so after a couple of rounds Buster went, "I can do this".....and his confidence grew against a lethargic Tyson.

Bowe fought three minutes a round, would be on Buster like a cheap suit, rough him up, low blows etc ...the works.this eventually would be come a close quarter affair....would not give Buster any breathing room to admire his work.....Bowe never folded even when washed up against Golata while Douglas was always a quit away when it got too hot in the kitchen.

There is a reason Douglas never pursued a immediate re match with Tyson...lightning never strikes twice.

Rid**** Bowe inside the distance no matter how many family tragedies Buster has to get motivated.

 

Holyfield was lucky against Tyson in the rematch.... :rofl:rofl

I haven't had a laugh like that in ages, thanks sir.

 

Douglas started nervously?? I suggest you sit on your ass again and watch the fight, Douglas started anything but nervously...

Err since when does a fighter who just destroyed another go chasing for a rematch??

Now snap out of your fantasy world please.

 

That's what I see. A footwork fight. And Rid**** is facing a big guy that's mobile. Not a short guy that comes to him.

I think Douglas turns him all night long. It'd look like a 79 holmes turning guy's. By about the 5th round, Bowe is walking into punches with that defense and mobility. And that wide looping right hand isn't landing and neither guy is landing their right uppercut either.

Decision bout and Rid**** swells up late. Douglas can weather a storm or two because he'd be ahead in the fight. If he's behind on the cards, I don't think he's the type to dig deep and come up with a win. And Bowe will dig deep getting hit but hanging in there.

But his footwork would be abysmal by the 7th round. He'd be another foot on the outside and still throwing wider and wider punches.

 

Well done Hookie :good

Those haters always say - he has 10 losses! Oh no!

Ray Robinson has 19 losses, so what? He has fought till late 40's like Evander.

Charlez has 25 losses. Emile Griffith also has around 20 losses. Duran - 14 or so. SO WHAT?

You should judge the fighter at his best, not when he was just and old name who didnt' know when to retire.