Tokyo Douglas vs. '92/235Lb Bowe

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  1. FlyingFrenchman

    FlyingFrenchman Active Member Full Member

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    Bowe- 6'5" with an 81" reach and 235 Lbs.

    Douglas- 6'4" with an 83" reach and 231 Lbs.

    Two big guys with good hand speed and boxing skill. Both men had very good jabs, strong and accurate. Both men had big right hands, Douglas' overhand right was more looping than Bowe's. Both were durable, but few have ever been as durable as Bowe.

    I like Bowe by decision or late round KO.
     
  2. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Great matchup wow. I have to go with Bowe as well by SD or late KO being
    more likely. Bowe may get outboxed for stretches but his durability and inside
    game will prevail.
     
  3. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bowe was way more aggressive than Douglas and would get him out of there by the mid to late rounds, he was the better all round fighter, tougher and a better puncher.
     
  4. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toyko douglas is a myth. Bowe smashes this bum.
     
  5. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When Holyfield used his jab in that first Bowe fight, he controlled the action. He just did this too little for it to matter on the scorecards. Douglas had a real good jab in Tokyo, and Bowe never once showed any real answer for a good jab.

    Douglas UD.
     
  6. red cobra

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  7. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Douglas was no more a myth than was Braddock in 1935.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Bowe had trouble with boxers. I think Douglas would get stopped late while ahead on points.
     
  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    First off Tokyo Douglas is no myth. He had a lot of talant but no desire. He got himself together for the one and only time and took it to Tyson an beat him case closed.
    Bowe had more talant and was a better fighter but also lazy. I can't pick yet I'll have to give it more thought.
     
  10. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Bowe is fighting a guy here who is as big as he is and on Tokyo form was punch perfect against a harder to hit Mike Tyson. Bowe was great against Holyfeild but he still got hit a heck of a lot and had a huge size advantage. If Holyfeild was the same size as Bowe I don't think Bowe could have beat him. Even so, Bowe never quit like Buster did.

    I don't think there was much difference in terms of talent between Bowe and Douglas. Bowe lacked motivation too but he was groomed like an Olympian. Douglas was a dissilusioned lazy fighter from day one. Buster was treading water a long time. He gave boxing one more try two times. He blew the Tucker fight but later found form at the right time. Being the "away fighter" so often had earlier discouraged buster. Bowe was more often the house fighter. I wonder how quickly Bowe might have become dissilusioned had he started out without the fanfare against busters opponents?

    Perhaps with the right team all along and if you lined up all the guys Bowe ever fought for Douglas, I think buster could have duplicated Riddick's record. At least up to the Holyfeild fight. who knows, Douglas might have stayed motivated and that Tokyo performance could have been duplicated a couple of times?
     
  11. energie

    energie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    bowe had fits with a shot tubbs/ man tuff fight with tokyo douglas
     
  12. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    The page that Douglas beat was also better than the Tubbs that Bowe beat.

    Tucker and Jesse Ferguson were both unbeaten too. Douglas was a sleeping giant. Tyson was not the only good fighter Buster beat.
     
  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Tucker beat Douglas. Douglas did beat McCall, though.
     
  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Yes, Tucker beat Douglas but Tucker was the unbeaten guy and prime. Tucker took Tyson all the way. Who knows how good Tucker could have been but for Tyson?

    Ferguson was a majority loss. I think Jesse fought in New Jersey a lot, he was the house fighter that night.

    A lot of people rave about how good Pinklon Thomas was for a short time but Douglas handled Berbick better than Thomas ever did. Berbick was a tough handfull for anyone not called Mike Tyson.

    Page, McCall, Berbick and Tyson. Douglas's resume is good on the quiet.
     
  15. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's the big thing, isn't it?

    One guy had things groomed and was the house fighter. The other guy wasn't.

    That's a whole different degree of a tough road to travel. Think about a bout like the Mathis bout. Maybe that's a dq loss. Or what happens if Douglas throws a sucker punch at mike Tyson during the day the fight is announced like Bowe did to Donald?

    Lots of conjecture and is boxing not being the house fighter changes a lot of things. Look at Fres Oquendo....when's the last time that guy got a break?

    Biggest difference between Bowe and Douglas is footwork. Buster is much much better at it. And Buster could throw punches while moving his feet. Bowe does everything from the waist up. And plods. He's Tex Cobb in the footwork department.