Tokyo Douglas vs Marciano

douglas

 

I'd like to ask a question of the forum.


Would any of them be astonished if Tokyo Douglas beat prime Rocky?

 

Douglas takes his head off with uppercuts.

 

Weren’t you astonished when he beat Tyson?

 

Tokyo Douglas

 

Tokyo Douglas!

It is more a case of Tokyo Tyson.

Poor Marciano gets disrespected, because people try to hold him to other people’s low standards!

 

Douglas gets disrepected because people tend to explain his victory away by saying it was all down to whatever was going on with Mike Tyson.

Douglas was no great fighter, but at 6'4 and with an 83 inch reach and decent all-round skills, including a wicked jab and uppercut, it's no huge surprise he might do well against guys with massive deficits in height and reach.

 

The important difference is that Doulas is getting disrespected based on what he failed to do, while Marciano is getting disrespected based on what others failed to do.

Marciano has nothing left to prove.

Douglas had one good night/one underprepared opponent.

The case for Douglas seems to come from top trump card fanatics, who are obsessed with dimensions and Tyson apologists on the other hand!

 

It's just as much a case of Tokyo Douglas, tho both scenario's absolutely come into play.

Tyson was indeed devolving a bit, both in technique, lifestyle and dedication. Things had been coming extremely easy for him in the ring. There was a fantastic article put up by someone a few months back that had various top boxing experts talking of Tyson's struggles on various fronts. This was pre Douglas and cannot be thrown aside.

Douglas was a big man and immensely talented. He had great size, a fantastic jab, excellent right hand, good handspeed, very good power all around and good fundamental boxing skills. He was however not very dedicated at all and had a bit of quit in him. He rarely if ever came into a bout in great shape and his stamina and overall performances suffered greatly. When the going got tough he was also one not to get going.

This all changed in Tokyo when he came in on the back of a great training camp and also for once was extremely determined and dedicated toward his goal.

There is noway on mother earth earlier versions of Douglas would have overcome the knockdown and came back to mow down Tyson.

Both boxers showed immense heart this night, Tyson took a huge amount of punishment still went within a whisker of getting himself over the line. Douglas came back from a heavy knockdown and still got the job done.

Douglas boxed superbly this night, even if Tyson was a bit one dimensional. He was aggressive and unlike so many others was prepared to let his hands go when Tyson came into range. Tyson paid the price many times when he opened up, something we had never really seen before. I still think Tyson would have likely defeated the rest of the division probably excepting Holyfield.

 

no

 

Marciano fought the best of his era but had a ton to prove to be considered an all time top heavyweight great sixty years after he retired .. his record simply proves nothing about how he'd do against fighters the size of Douglas fighting at their best .. Carmine Vingo aside of course ..

 

If Marciano had been in the ring on THAT night, Douglas would have ruined him.

 

No not after I saw Tyson's lack of condition and the amateur hour that constituted his corner.
Now I 've answered your question, how about you answer mine?

 

An excellent post!

 

You have sort of answered my question for me here.

He didn't beat Tyson because he was great; he beat Tyson because Tyson did not take the fight seriously.

It would therefore shift the goal posts considerably, if he replicated the feat against a meticulously prepared Marciano.